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from Wright's interview it sounds like there's a trade on the table. I'm not mad about it, although I'm really high on Dillingham. Smart move by the T-Wolves.
https://www.spurstalk.com/stephon-ca...024-nba-draft/
I'm sorry but I love unprotected first round picks.
from Wright's interview it sounds like there's a trade on the table. I'm not mad about it, although I'm really high on Dillingham. Smart move by the T-Wolves.
Nah this is cope. The assumption that the wolves will be a cellar dweller is a bet against prime Anthony Edwards who already looked like a legit top 5 player for the first 2 rounds of the postseason against a veteran suns team and the defending champs.
the swap is fools gold. We already owned an unprotected swap, so not only is there already the built in chance that the spurs natural pick is better than the wolves one, but now the wolves swap only matters if the wolves pick is also better than the mavs unprotected pick (which in and of itself is a bet against prime Doncic
even if the capital is better in a vacuum, 6-7 years is a VERY long time. 7 years ago the spurs had Kawhi who had just recently gotten Zaza’d and it seemed like we had a superstar for years to come. Durant was a warrior. There is a price tag on opportunity cost. This is a pick that could have been a solid role player for all those years. Every time the spurs make the playoffs in the next 7 years and feels like they were a player away from doing better, nobody is going to be thinking “it’s fine, we’ll get that guy in 2031”
this spurs roster isn’t close, but PATFO/Wright still seem to think our main path to improvement is internal growth which i find unfathomable
On Castle. There are a lot of players that you can label 'if they learn to shoot they'll be a star.' Most don't improve to an avg level.
If we are making this pick then PATFO has done a great job. If we are using it in a star trade then PATFO did not succesfully built organically.
2031 pick value comes as a trade asset. Though I agree the swap is pretty low value in a year the Spurs already have one. Even the 2031 pick has questionable value today as it is 7 years out. But in a couple years, I guess it should be valuable enough to make a move. Who knows, a deal may already be in the works.
Initial reaction is that I hated the move since the pick is so far out and the swap was poor value. Didn't mind the Spurs trading the pick but think the value back was pretty low. Still don't like the move but can understand the rationale in terms of getting a trade asset back and preserving playing time for developing players. But this just means Sochan/Branham/Wesley need to start showing improvement. Would be very ugly if all 3 strike out.
After sleeping on it, I still think this is horrible.
Rest of the nba is deservedly dunking on PATFO and we got threads justifying this
I love 1st rd picks as well. But when does panic set in?
Serious question: if we have another 50+ loss season, and then punt on the ‘25 draft to collect more picks, what then? We still gonna be pretending it’s 4d chess?
First I hated drafting Dilly...then I loved trading him...then I hated it beeing for picks only...then I loved the loose protections...now I just wished it was the '31 switch and '30 pick, as that would not deminish die Mavs swap.
It seems that you're already in full panic mode, so there's nothing to set in.
I don't like the decision, either. I can't get behind the reasoning that there wasn't a single good player left on the board or even an option to trade down outside the lottery considering how much talent we need, but if you care about what the rest of the league thinks, then idk if being a Spurs fan is the right choice for youRest of the nba is deservedly dunking on PATFO and we got threads justifying this
MIN couldn't trade '30 because they've already traded '29 but the swap doesn't reduce the Mavs one at all - it basically works as the Spurs would get the best pick out of their own, Mavs and MIN.
Unless the spurs have something up their sleeve (we'll wait and see), this was a pretty bad trade. Seven years in advance ...really ? Seems that the the brain trust thinks talent 7 years from now is worth more than talent now. I will bet that there will at least 1 all star in the talent taken on pick 8 and beyond, making the spurs look silly for doing so. They had their chance to draft a halfway decent player, they probably just blew it. Some brain trust.
Been a Spurs fan for over 20 years. I don’t normally care what the league thinks. But they’re right in this case and no spin or cope can change that. This is a bad move and all these guys slurping the FO would laugh all night if LA or HOU pulled weak like this
There's no case in this spin if we don't get a couple of wings via trades or in free agency.
If wings picked at #8 or later develop into legit starters, there's a no move on this spin.
I also don't like Wright's track record when it comes to anything other than getting future assets, but I don't see what's doomering about this going to do.
We just have to wait and see how this summer plays out.
It essentially becomes the best pick of the 3 2030: picks, with Minny’s protected for pick 1. Your odds of a swap being something increase if you have two of them.
I agree with whoever said they panicked after Salaun got picked. Duncan himself almost left much earlier than year 8. Even as a trade asset, who is trading for it ? Who has enough job security to trade for this pick ? If you want to see the glass half full they maybe have everything lined up to get a very good starter this summer and they don't need anything short term.
Not the first time the Spurs fixated on a single player and failed to get value for the pick when their guy wasn't there. Hopefully the complete failure to grab a shooter is an indication of the improvement of Sochan, Wesley and Branham from outside.
Yeah, I get that we get the best out of the three picks in '30, but if both of the DAL+MEM picks are better than ours, the lesser one just does nothing.
Guess I’m in the minority of sit back enjoy the ride and let the FO cook
I got it from the moment it happened. The Spurs greatest weakness was perimeter defense. They took a big step by adding a player who could become one of the best perimeter defenders in the league in Castle. Dillingham can score but his defense is as bad as it gets. That would have been one step forward and one step backward. Castle also has BBIQ which is another hole in the Spurs game that is glaring. Dillingham is an iso player. The Spurs have lots of picks over the next few years to find other high caliber players that are going to demand high salaries. Having unprotected picks in the future obtained from a poor draft is not just a championship move. It’s a dynasty move.
For me, the most consequential part of the deal was the fact that they traded out of #8 at all. It means that the front office had Dillingham, Buzelis, Williams, Carter, Knecht, Topić, etc, for the taking, and they decided that none of them were worth a roster spot.
It means all those reports about one or the other having positive workouts and the Spurs being interested were smokescreens and that the front office didn’t like any of them enough to use a draft pick on them.
I will give you one good reason this was a foolish trade.
No one knows the future. By 2030 we all may be gone. The way the world is today.
Just glad we didn’t end up with Risacher tbh
So Salaun had to be a smokescreen too with Carter being one, right? Wonder if the Spurs planned to trade out of 8 the whole time or if perhaps they were targeting Holland there and bailed once Detroit took him 5.
Yeah if this was 2 unprotected picks I’d prob accept that the spurs got a good deal. But when you think about Minnesota will get 7 years or production from Dillingam before Spurs get that 2031 pick is crazy. Or another way to look at it spurs could have got 7 years of production from keeping the draft pick.
Carter was easily a smoke screen, but I think for Salaun. Once he was gone, Spurs went back to the feelers they put out pre draft about trading the 8th and got the picks. I do love the wrist slitting in here; never change, upstairs.
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