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    If you where PATFO, would you go,

    Tre, Vassell, Castle, Sochan, Wemby

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    Castle, Vassell, Champ, Sochan, Wemby

    Or bring Castle of the bench to start the season

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    Having Castle & Sochan out there together is already killing the spacing. Adding Tre to that mix is just asking opposing teams to blanket Vic with 3 players.

    I understand wanting to maximize the in-game reps for Castle/Wemby combo. But you're setting them up for failure with that poor spacing.

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    I don't think the should start. I think the Spurs should still acquire a starting forward and play Jones. But considering what Pop's thought of the PG spot, he would 100 percent start Castle there rather than SF.

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    I'm looking forward to 20 games of Castle proving he's not a point guard while shooting 20% from 3, followed by another 10 games of putrid Branham starts before a reluctant return to Jones to finish with about 33 wins

    Then they'll draft the next terrible shooting fake point guard bricklayer with their own pick, and Atlanta's pick, which will be between 12 and 18 will be dumped for 3 future seconds and another 2030 swap.

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    I'm looking forward to 20 games of Castle proving he's not a point guard while shooting 20% from 3, followed by another 10 games of putrid Branham starts before a reluctant return to Jones to finish with about 33 wins

    Then they'll draft the next terrible shooting fake point guard bricklayer with their own pick, and Atlanta's pick, which will be between 12 and 18 will be dumped for 3 future seconds and another 2030 swap.
    sad part is how dead on this probably will be

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    I think they are going to try to make him a point guard. It’s also not really fathomable to have the anti-gravity of Sochan/castle playing together too much, let alone with Tre in addition to them.

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    Well in the OP's question he said I'm PAFTO, so my SL is probably Osman, Branham, Champagnie, Sochan, Wemby.

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    Tre is an obvious backup tbh. So Castle, Vassell, Wemby, Sochan, and Keldon (until we have better)

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    We could wait to see what the roster looks like. Of course, what fun would that be?

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    For the record, even though I like Castle the wing prospect more than Castle the PG prospect, I'm actually to see him get a little run at PG.

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    Here’s how I see it. Castle and Sochan isn’t that big of a problem. Tre, Castle and Sochan is a much bigger concern. I think Castle will actually pair up nicely with Sochan. Seems those two would work in transition and Castle kicks out on the drive pretty well. Good lob combo and two defensive disruptors.

    If Tre is on the floor with Castle and Sochan then one of those three will become a bigger liability because they’ll pick their poison on who to leave open on rotation and it becomes a much lower percentage when you got three guys who aren’t legitimate shooters.

    This team is a work in progress and this isn’t as big of a problem as people make it out to be. Obviously this is worked out as the make up of this team evolves.

    Everyone knows a more dynamic PG or shot creator with range is gonna be a primary focus going forward in drafts, FA and overall development of this roster.

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    I think they are going to try to make him a point guard. It’s also not really fathomable to have the anti-gravity of Sochan/castle playing together too much, let alone with Tre in addition to them.
    There's going to be so much anti-gravity next year that DARPA will make a $100 million dollar investment into Spurs Sports & Entertainment llc

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    We could wait to see what the roster looks like. Of course, what fun would that be?
    Yeah, too early to speculate on starting lineups since free agency hasn't started. But last year shows that the Spurs are totally willing to punt their cap space for even more picks and swaps.

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    Here’s how I see it. Castle and Sochan isn’t that big of a problem. Tre, Castle and Sochan is a much bigger concern. I think Castle will actually pair up nicely with Sochan. Seems those two would work in transition and Castle kicks out on the drive pretty well. Good lob combo and two defensive disruptors.

    If Tre is on the floor with Castle and Sochan then one of those three will become a bigger liability because they’ll pick their poison on who to leave open on rotation and it becomes a much lower percentage when you got three guys who aren’t legitimate shooters.

    This team is a work in progress and this isn’t as big of a problem as people make it out to be. Obviously this is worked out as the make up of this team evolves.

    Everyone knows a more dynamic PG or shot creator with range is gonna be a primary focus going forward in drafts, FA and overall development of this roster.
    I don't think Castle and Sochan will be a problem together in 2024-25, because we're apparently soft tanking again anyway. But eventually if we're going to be a good team (with those guys on it), one of them will need to be at least a 36% 3P shooter, and the other at least 34%.

    I hopeful we can see both of them elevate to 33% this year. Castle is starting from a much better place than Sochan did.

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    A point gaurd that can shoot still eludes us. Castle should start the season on the bench but they should have ended the season with Dillingham, Vassel, Castle, Sochan, Wemby...

    2 shooters one with handles, 2 defenders and the alien.
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    Castle-Vassell-Keldon-Sochan-Wemby

    Keldon can start now because Castle and Sochan have the perimeter defense mostly covered.

    Try sign a FA forward who can space the floor like a Tobias Harris and move Keldon back to bench.

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    I don't think Castle and Sochan will be a problem together in 2024-25, because we're apparently soft tanking again anyway. But eventually if we're going to be a good team (with those guys on it), one of them will need to be at least a 36% 3P shooter, and the other at least 34%.

    I hopeful we can see both of them elevate to 33% this year. Castle is starting from a much better place than Sochan did.
    Agreed.

    I think Castle will hit 3pt development hard and with any luck that issue is minimized. He’s not gonna be Reed Shepard but I think he’s got the right state of mind to get that liability addressed.
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    I'm looking forward to 20 games of Castle proving he's not a point guard while shooting 20% from 3, followed by another 10 games of putrid Branham starts before a reluctant return to Jones to finish with about 33 wins

    Then they'll draft the next terrible shooting fake point guard bricklayer with their own pick, and Atlanta's pick, which will be between 12 and 18 will be dumped for 3 future seconds and another 2030 swap.
    lmfao spot on

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    I'd rather trade for Brogdon (presuming the cost is reasonable which I'd define as Graham, Bassey, Wesley, Hornets 1st and maybe a 2nd(s) than sign Harris.

    Not only do I not want to be locked in for probably 3 years to a declining, less athletic version of Gay, but Brogdon is a better shooter, ball hander and play maker than Harris.

    He's also big enough all around to tussle with wings when Castle has to crossmatch to defend the POA.

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    im hoping to see major improvement in sochan 3 point shot.This is year 3 for him,Gotta be some type of improvement for him.

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    im hoping to see major improvement in sochan 3 point shot.This is year 3 for him,Gotta be some type of improvement for him.
    In his defense, he made some large strides in year 2…going from 25% as a rookie to 31% as a sop re is meaningful. That being said, his shot still just looks so broke I’d love for him to make another leap and become a ~35% guy from deep but I’m not going to hold out hope.

    I think you have to go Castle/Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Wemby. Other option would be Tre/Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Wemby and have Castle play a 6th man type role where he still gets lots of minutes with Vassell/Wemby. This is probably the best way to actually win games tbh but guessing they’ll want to start Castle for development purposes and I don’t mind that.

    Would still love an upgrade over Champagnie. No ing reason he should be starting for any NBA team

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    Bold of you to assume he'll be a starter.

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    In his defense, he made some large strides in year 2…going from 25% as a rookie to 31% as a sop re is meaningful. That being said, his shot still just looks so broke I’d love for him to make another leap and become a ~35% guy from deep but I’m not going to hold out hope.

    I think you have to go Castle/Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Wemby. Other option would be Tre/Vassell/Champagnie/Sochan/Wemby and have Castle play a 6th man type role where he still gets lots of minutes with Vassell/Wemby. This is probably the best way to actually win games tbh but guessing they’ll want to start Castle for development purposes and I don’t mind that.

    Would still love an upgrade over Champagnie. No ing reason he should be starting for any NBA team
    He fell of big time in calendar year 2024 as his volume increased though, which is the concern for me. I actually think he's given way too much credit for his shot improving last year, his overall % is really inflated by two good months, the best of which was really low volume.

    Sochan 3P shooting by month last season:

    Month Games Attempts/Game 3P%
    Oct 4 2.0 25.0%
    Nov 14 2.1 46.7%
    Dec 14 2.9 32.5%
    Jan 16 3.5 37.5%
    Feb 12 3.0 19.4%
    Mar 14 4.1 22.8%

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    https://athlonsports.com/nba/san-ant...-antonio-spurs

    Also a paywall express news article says Castle to play PG.

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