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    So we have our own pick, ATLs and possibly the Bulls top 10 protected? Unless ATL blows their roster up their pick will be mid/late teens. Our same team with Castle, about 30-35 win season so also 9-13 kinda pick. We’re probably going to package most of these picks next draft to try to move up into the top 5 if theres someone we like, or we’re going to pull off a major trade this year. Way too early to tell but might as well discuss it.

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    I've got my eyes on a kid named Thirty-Two Unprotected out of Oklahoma City and another kid out of New York named Thirty-One Swap.

    Parents giving their kids ed up names these days.

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    Tank for Traore

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    I've got my eyes on a kid named Thirty-Two Unprotected out of Oklahoma City and another kid out of New York named Thirty-One Swap.

    Parents giving their kids ed up names these days.
    There’s a guy by the name of Cash Considerations who I think is a lock for the Spurs in the second round.

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    Lol you guys feeling a bit negative lately, eh?

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    Chill and enjoy summer league and this next spurs season. Way too early for 2025 draft talk lol

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    Chill and enjoy summer league and this next spurs season. Way too early for 2025 draft talk lol
    I completely disagree. Spurs aren’t going to get anyone significant in the free agency which means we’re going to run back a team plus castle, which is basically another tank year. If we’re tanking, we should go and start talking about Prospects now, and why this draft is so amazing to begin with.

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    Way too soon, we're too far out to get an accurate picture of the prospect landscape, but also we don't know the Spurs direction until free agency starts and moves are made or not.

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    This draft is looking like a high-end top 4 or 5, but there should be good players further back as well. If I remember correctly, the 2003 draft had a Top 4 (pre-draft), but ended up with 4 possible Hall of Famers, and 9 total All-Stars:

    #01 LeBron James - All NBA (future Hall of Fame)
    #03 Carmelo Anthony - All-NBA (future Hall of Fame)
    #04 Chris Bosh - Hall of Fame
    #05 Dwyane Wade - Hall of Fame
    #06 Chris Kaman - All-Star
    #18 David West - All-Star
    #29 Josh Howard - All-Star
    #27 Mo Williams - All-Star
    #51 Kyle Korver - All-Star

    Others:
    Boris Diaw
    Zaza Pachulia
    Keith Bogans
    Matt Bonner
    Travis Outlaw
    Carlos Delfino
    Kendrick Perkins
    Leandro Barbosa
    Kirk Hinrich
    T. J. Ford
    Jason Kapono
    Luke Walton
    Nick Collison
    Luke Ridnour

    In my quest (Google search) of 2003 vs 2025 NBA Draft, I found this gem of a "basketball forum" thread.

    https://www.basketballforum.com/thre...r-prime.33506/

    There is some gold in there. Mostly people predicting Darko Milicic as having the brightest future and Chris Bosh not even making it in the NBA.

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    What if Castle shows good signs of become an NBA PG this season?

    (I'd love Traore too but putting myself in PATFO's shoes...)

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    What if Castle shows good signs of become an NBA PG this season?

    (I'd love Traore too but putting myself in PATFO's shoes...)
    If Flagg and Ace are both gone and Traore is the BPA... then you have a 3 guard rotation of Traore, Castle and Vassell. 2 of the 3 on the court at all times. Fill the SF/PF slots in FA (or with another draft pick).

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    Looking forward to seeing how Castle performs this year cause no doubt PATFO are going to see what he looks like at Point. It'll give us a chance to see if he can legitimately play the position or if he's in fact a combo-guard and the PG position is one we need to address moving forward.

    Nolan Traore, Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, Khaman Maluach, and Dylan Harper are the 6 marquee names in the 2025 Draft as of right now. Obviously it's early and a lot will change between now and next Summer, but those are the 6 blue-chippers who are projected to go first. Spurs would be lucky to have any one of them tbh, though Maluach is a C so Spurs would likely go another direction if they were fortunate enough to land a top-10 pick. Regardless, this is why we really need ATL to blow this season. Don't think we'll be quite bad enough to get a top-5 pick, and I think CHI ends up tanking down the stretch of next season to ensure they keep their pick.
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    If Flagg and Ace are both gone and Traore is the BPA... then you have a 3 guard rotation of Traore, Castle and Vassell. 2 of the 3 on the court at all times. Fill the SF/PF slots in FA (or with another draft pick).
    I'm not against the logic but that's not how PATFO opperates.

    Once they've chosen THEIR guy, they then give him time and trust to develop. Sometime to a fault as we've seen in recent past.

    Putting another PG pospect, with a huge hype, in his legs would benefit neither Castle, nor Traore nor the Spurs.

    The logic would be going for another position (unless Castle develops an amazing shot next season and can be used as a SG - not very realistic)

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    I'm not against the logic but that's not how PATFO opperates.

    Once they've chosen THEIR guy, they then give him time and trust to develop. Sometime to a fault as we've seen in recent past.

    Putting another PG pospect, with a huge hype, in his legs would benefit neither Castle, nor Traore nor the Spurs.

    The logic would be going for another position (unless Castle develops an amazing shot next season and can be used as a SG - not very realistic)
    I've never been accused for thinking the same way as PATFO. Castle played on-ball and off-ball for a complicated motion offense at UCONN. He is very smart. Just like Diaw ran point for us but wasn't our PG, I can see us giving Castle a full year experience of running point... but still not hesitating from drafting another PG if they are good enough. Castle needs to develop his shot, but he needs to do that regardless of anything else happening. He (theoretically) can play PG next to Vassell as well as SG next to Traore.

    But the defensive potential of Flagg/Wemby... or the offensive potential of Ace/Wemby would just be unreal.

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    Someone I really want to keep an eye on is Liam McNeeley. He's a 3&D (SF) going to play for UCONN. He should be available around one of our picks and plugs a hole in the roster near perfectly (for being a non-star)

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    what's the consensus as to ATL picking ZR and how that will impact where their pick will land next year? Is tanking a strong possibility for them now, since passing on sarr?

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/2025-nba-mo...032744663.html

    Yahoo Sports breaks down the top talent to keep early tabs on for the 2025 NBA Draft.

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    Trade all of the picks for 2035 first round picks.

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    https://sports.yahoo.com/2025-nba-mo...032744663.html

    Yahoo Sports breaks down the top talent to keep early tabs on for the 2025 NBA Draft.
    6. Dylan Harper, G

    Rutgers | Freshman
    Harper, the younger brother of Ron Harper Jr. and son of NBA veteran Ron Harper, is a big-bodied lead guard who has cleaned up his decision-making and can really put pressure on the rim. Harper will be playing with Bailey at Rutgers next year and scouts will be making New Jersey a priority stop this college basketball season. The 6-6, 210-pound guard can play on or off the ball and is a tenacious defender who can guard multiple positions.




    Imagine having 2 Castles playing side by side (if they both learn to shoot).

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    I've never been accused for thinking the same way as PATFO. Castle played on-ball and off-ball for a complicated motion offense at UCONN. He is very smart. Just like Diaw ran point for us but wasn't our PG, I can see us giving Castle a full year experience of running point... but still not hesitating from drafting another PG if they are good enough. Castle needs to develop his shot, but he needs to do that regardless of anything else happening. He (theoretically) can play PG next to Vassell as well as SG next to Traore.

    But the defensive potential of Flagg/Wemby... or the offensive potential of Ace/Wemby would just be unreal.
    This tbh

    As much as I hate the perspective of another season of soft tanking, it could really be worth it.

    As for Traore, let's wait and see what Castle shows us, who knows, maybe it's true that UCONN's system limited his offensive game

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    Trade all of the picks for 2035 first round picks.
    Lebron got a grandkid we don’t know about?

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    Looking forward to seeing how Castle performs this year cause no doubt PATFO are going to see what he looks like at Point. It'll give us a chance to see if he can legitimately play the position or if he's in fact a combo-guard and the PG position is one we need to address moving forward.

    Nolan Traore, Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey, VJ Edgecombe, Khaman Maluach, and Dylan Harper are the 6 marquee names in the 2025 Draft as of right now. Obviously it's early and a lot will change between now and next Summer, but those are the 6 blue-chippers who are projected to go first. Spurs would be lucky to have any one of them tbh, though Maluach is a C so Spurs would likely go another direction if they were fortunate enough to land a top-10 pick. Regardless, this is why we really need ATL to blow this season. Don't think we'll be quite bad enough to get a top-5 pick, and I think CHI ends up tanking down the stretch of next season to ensure they keep their pick.
    He doesn't need to be at combo guard if he can't find his shot. We'll see how it plays out but a defense that can sag off him makes many of Castle's upsides go away offensively. Defensively, I expect a homerun if his offense is going to struggle.

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    But someone told me it wasn't the Cooper Flagg draft.

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    Stop with the tanking narratives, unless Wemby suffers a serious injury we're not getting into top5 odds.

    Pistons - still horrible, draftedd anonther non-shooter.
    Wizards - still horrible and looking to trade those few established players they have, Kuzma is going to be traded.
    Hornets - couldd be trending upwards, but Salaun won't help much. With all the idiots on their roster, chances of them being much better are low.
    Raptors - they have some solid pieces, but surely still horrible.
    Nets - probably going to be the worst team next season.
    Bulls - Demar probably walks, they're shopping Lavine, another horrible team.
    Blazers - still in the early phase of rebuilding.
    Jazz - Ainge isn't going to stop tanking until he gets a start player in the draft.

    With most of the league being one or two injuries away from being horrible. Like Grizzlies this season.

    I'd really like to hear some explanation how do you plan on being worse than those teams that will all be intentionally bad?
    Wemby will surely average like 25/12/5 with DPOY defense, so unless you want to shut him down and piss him off, we can't get good odds for a top3 pick.
    We also got lucky with Wemby, got lucky with moving up to 4th pick and got lucky with Raptors pick.
    If they're idiotic enough to ruin Wemby's season, then they deserve to drop for pushing their luck with lottery odds.

    There's always a gap in W/L between tanking teams and teams that are trying to make play-in, if we're out of the play-in race, we can always just tank in the final few weeks.
    Tanking teams don't win more than ~25 games, that's way too low for a team with top10 player like Wemby.

    Realistically, we can get in 8th-12th best odds range, hope to stay in top10 and then trade up a few spots to get the preferred player.
    Obviously we're not trading up into top3, but going from let's say 9th to 5th should be easily doable with an additional FRP.

    But someone told me it wasn't the Cooper Flagg draft.
    Ofc mainstream media will push it as Cooper Flagg draft, he's a white guy playing for Duke, ffs.

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