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    In about 25 years when the geezer finally retires, they'll obviously "keep it in the family".

    I'd rather a cheap organization like this not splurge on a largely irrelevant position like head coach anyway . . . and yes, I'm aware there's no cap on them, but I still feel like the more they spend on that, the less they likely will in the area(s) that actually matter.

    It's amazing to me that on a team with the guard play as atrocious as this, that people are seemingly fine with Castle, another player without a primary job description offensively ("short role" play making and cutting are secondary skills and this team lacks the play making and floor spacing to maximize them anyway) replacing Wesley in the rotation being the only change.

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    Castle will start but I will say again they need to find Pops replacement and get the right people now rather then latter.

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    Is Castle replacing Tre or Champagnie in the starting lineup?
    Yes, please.

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    Castle will start but I will say again they need to find Pops replacement and get the right people now rather then latter.
    Ime should have been brought back the second Boston cut him loose. Don't think there's anyone else from Pop's tree that I'd want.

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    The idea of Champagnie starting next season is very bleak stuff. It’s very likely this organization has no clue what it’s doing. We better see some trades this offseason with real players coming in
    I’m not a Champagnie homer but he’s a bargain basement option for us. Plays his 3 and D role, doesn’t need to see the ball much, 8’11” standing reach is fine size for a SF.

    You may want to just pull for him to improve a bit rather than spend your life agitating on the negatives. Surely SF is a position we can easily target in the 25 draft. If we shoot all our missiles on an expensive SF option this off season, it is only costing us Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey 2025 lotto balls.

    Think big picture man, for a tiny second at least!

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    I think it's totally possible...that this team will even be worse than last year. It's all about Pop.

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    Spurs could have won more games last year if they didn't experiment with Jeremy. They know this. Since no one even knew who was going 1st overall it's pretty safe to say if you're not making the playoffs it really doesn't matter, might as well develop what you can. I am hoping Victor comes back from this summer injury free and ready to start the season. I don't have any expectations above expecting the others to have gotten the memo (assuming it was sent) to include Victor in the offense.

    I see no reason to not start Castle, other than the rookie wall.

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    Hopefully the spurs let Castle show his stuff in Summer league. It may give an indication what his skills actually are, even if its against other rookie compe ion. We all know how conservative the spurs are. Oh he broke a nail - lets keep him out of summer league. Letting him play lots of minutes will give fans something to actually root for in this next uncertain season.

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    obviously he was drafted as a pg for positionless bball. Champagnie is going nowhere, he has showed significant improvement and there is no need to stunt his development when the tools are all there.

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    Hoping it’s
    PG - Castle
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    SF - someone that can shoot
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    C- colins

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    Luckily we got Chip

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    I’m not a Champagnie homer but he’s a bargain basement option for us. Plays his 3 and D role, doesn’t need to see the ball much, 8’11” standing reach is fine size for a SF.

    You may want to just pull for him to improve a bit rather than spend your life agitating on the negatives. Surely SF is a position we can easily target in the 25 draft. If we shoot all our missiles on an expensive SF option this off season, it is only costing us Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey 2025 lotto balls.

    Think big picture man, for a tiny second at least!
    If he played even passable defense, I’d be on board.

    And this team is not tanking next season. If that’s what you’re hanging your hat (cooper flag lol), you’re going to be seriously disappointed

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    Maybe homerism/wishful thinking, but I think Champagnie is going to surprise some people this year. He'll still be the worst starting 3 in the league if he's asked to start, but I think this year he solidifies himself as a solid rotation guy as opposed to end-of-bench backup. He was playing way better than Keldon Johnson by the end of the year and his defense is decent for a backup 3. He went from a -2 player at the beginning of the season and steadily improved to where he was net neutral by season's end.

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    imagine "tanking" all year to get a sixth or possibly even seventh man off the bench (Keldon would be 6th).
    Honestly, that wouldn't be surprising at all. The NBA Draft is such a crapshoot, you can easily draft a lottery guy whose career ceiling is a bench player. , you can draft a lottery guy who completely busts. It happens all the time.

    Not saying Castle will bust, but just saying lottery picks in general can bust, and it's not even out of the ordinary.

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    Prime example


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    Honestly, that wouldn't be surprising at all. The NBA Draft is such a crapshoot, you can easily draft a lottery guy whose career ceiling is a bench player. , you can draft a lottery guy who completely busts. It happens all the time.

    Not saying Castle will bust, but just saying lottery picks in general can bust, and it's not even out of the ordinary.
    Sure, but don't understand the point of you playing devil's advocate. You'd rather Castle fight Tre Jones, Wesley, et al for minutes? Why did we tank then?

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    IDK the Dillingham trade seems more like them loading up to make a trade in a year or two as opposed to now. Probably have no interest in trading for Dejounte or Young now with Castle in hand and short of Booker becoming available after a Durant trade to Houston I don't see any good reason to make a big trade now where they'd have to give up at least one of the 2025 picks.
    I think at least they’ll onboard a couple of vets like Houston did last year, although maybe shoot to not sign assholes.

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    Sure, but don't understand the point of you playing devil's advocate. You'd rather Castle fight Tre Jones, Wesley, et al for minutes? Why did we tank then?
    Well it's not like we tanked specifically for Castle. He's just who we ended up with. We tanked with the hope that we could get help for Wemby, but whether Castle will be that guy is far from determined.

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    Sure, but don't understand the point of you playing devil's advocate. You'd rather Castle fight Tre Jones, Wesley, et al for minutes? Why did we tank then?
    Castle - unless he's completely incapable of making perimeter shots and his defense doesn't fully translate - is a virtual lock to get big minutes, while Jones will either play beside in the starting lineup or be his primary backup.

    Wesley could be paired with Tre or Malaki off the bench as the guard pairing, but I see Malaki and Blake competing against one another for minutes.

    My money is on Blake emerging as the back up 2 guard, yet that is really contingent on his outside jumper coming along (as much as his defense and playmaking has).

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    So, what now? Does he play SF? Does he come off the bench? Does he still start at PG and Paul comes off the bench? What happens with Tre on that case?

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    I don't see Tre falling out of the rotation, tbh. This probably means Castle plays more as a wing than as a PG in his rookie season, tbh.

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    With the addition of CP3, it seems that Castle will be replacing Champagnie in the starting lineup.

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    Wemby
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    Sochan or Castle

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    I’m not a Champagnie homer but he’s a bargain basement option for us. Plays his 3 and D role, doesn’t need to see the ball much, 8’11” standing reach is fine size for a SF.

    You may want to just pull for him to improve a bit rather than spend your life agitating on the negatives. Surely SF is a position we can easily target in the 25 draft. If we shoot all our missiles on an expensive SF option this off season, it is only costing us Cooper Flagg and Ace Bailey 2025 lotto balls.

    Think big picture man, for a tiny second at least!
    Sorry, but calling a guy who plays no defense a 3 and D guy is kind of a homer take.

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