Woj: Dejounte Murray Traded to Pelicans for Larry Nance Jr, Dyson Daniels and Picks

[kobyz]

I think Risacher starts in place of Hunter unless he really struggles in training camp and pre season.

Risacher starts at the two next to Hunter

[heyheymymy]

Just hope ATL doesn't swing Trae Young for some real difference makers next

But if that's the weak haul for DJ not sure if anything Trae can pull is going to level the Hawks up significantly. They really needed to get big returns from both and stack up.

Pretty tense times here because moving DJ shows the willingness and then Trae brings back a lot of value + opens up a massive 40MM or so opportunity in the salary. You could potentially really shake it up. Which ATL needs to do since they have no control of their picks future.

[kobyz]

It isn't a great return for Murray which is good news for Spurs.

Young has publicly put some pressure on Hawks FO. If Hawks don't get better, he might ask to be traded. With that in mind, Hawks have mostly two options:
- Use these picks to do another trade to improve their team.
- Trade Young and rebuild around Jalen Johnson and Risacher. They can't do that without their picks back, Spurs will have to be involved directly or indirectly in a Young trade.

After having draft Castle, I don't see Spurs going after Trae young. Question is what team is interested in Young and what they might offer to Spurs to give Hawks their picks back?

The only logical trade destination for Young is Orlando, so how a 3 teams trade would look in that scenario?

[heyheymymy]

As long as ATL doesn't pivot too well with Young next I like where they stand in regards to the 2025-2027 FRPs value

Perfect situation so far where the Hawks panic knowing they have no presence in the next few drafts and unloads corporate knowledge and continuity fwiw to make a big recourse to go all-in but ultimately falls short and lands in mediocrity with hamstrung flexibility.

Cmon baby just give me three seasons of misfires and disorganization from ATLFO and then you're free

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Weird that Dejounte fetched that little value, especially on his new contract (didn’t he have a trade kicker though?). Atlanta didn’t even wait longer, so perhaps the Lakers, supposedly Spurs and others interest in him hasn’t been that great.

I wouldn’t hate going after CJ McCollum, think he’d fit well on the Spurs and his expensive contract will expire before having to pay Wemby.

[Raven]

amazing trade for the pels tbh, it actually makes them one of the better teams in the league suddenly. If they trade ingram, of course, that changes everything, but regardless that was amazing value. Atlanta with nance and risacher clearly becomes a team with sense, where the TO machine becomes a 35% usage rate player if not more.

[T Park]

Don’t like the fit for the pelicans.

Hawks did ok with 2 firsts and one of the better on ball defenders.


The hawk’s however are one injury away from bottoming out

[RC_Drunkford]

It isn't a great return for Murray which is good news for Spurs.

Young has publicly put some pressure on Hawks FO. If Hawks don't get better, he might ask to be traded. With that in mind, Hawks have mostly two options:
- Use these picks to do another trade to improve their team.
- Trade Young and rebuild around Jalen Johnson and Risacher. They can't do that without their picks back, Spurs will have to be involved directly or indirectly in a Young trade.

After having draft Castle, I don't see Spurs going after Trae young. Question is what team is interested in Young and what they might offer to Spurs to give Hawks their picks back?

there's no reason in that 2nd scenario for the Spurs to trade the Hawks picks tbh. If they blow it up these are potential top 5 picks 3 years in a row. There's nobody worth trading those for.

[Raven]

Don’t like the fit for the pelicans.

Hawks did ok with 2 firsts and one of the better on ball defenders.


The hawk’s however are one injury away from bottoming out

why though?

[John B]

Not interested. Wake me up if it’s Markkanen’s turn to be traded.

[Bruno]

there's no reason in that 2nd scenario for the Spurs to trade the Hawks picks tbh. If they blow it up these are potential top 5 picks 3 years in a row. There's nobody worth trading those for.

This scenario isn't on the table. They will blow it up only if they get their picks back.

It is similar to what happen few days ago with Nets. They blew it up by trading Bridges only because they made a side trade with Rockets to get their picks back.

[Dejounte]

Welcome home Trae!

[LeBowen]

Which team would even want Trae and has enough assets?

Magic - best fit and they've got picks and some pieces Hawks would want.
Heat - they don't have enough assets, but it's Riley, so who knows.
Clippers - I guess in some ridiculous three team scenario where a third team gets PG13 and gives up assets, but PG13's market isn't great right now.
Lakers - they don't have the assets.
Rockets - don't see it happening after they drafted Sheppard.
Jazz - doesn't seem like an Ainge player, but they certainly have the best package out of all these teams.
Spurs - ugh...

I'd say there's absolutely no chance any other team is interested.

[Dejounte]

Which team would even want Trae and has enough assets?

Magic - best fit and they've got picks and some pieces Hawks would want.
Heat - they don't have enough assets, but it's Riley, so who knows.
Clippers - I guess in some ridiculous three team scenario where a third team gets PG13 and gives up assets, but PG13's market isn't great right now.
Lakers - they don't have the assets.
Rockets - don't see it happening after they drafted Sheppard.
Jazz - doesn't seem like an Ainge player, but they certainly have the best package out of all these teams.
Spurs - ugh...

I'd say there's absolutely no chance any other team is interested.

It’s win now players from other teams or picks back from the Spurs. No in between.

[Dejounte]

Now that I’m thinking about it… why wouldn’t a Garland-Trae swap work?

[LeBowen]

It’s win now players from other teams or picks back from the Spurs. No in between.

The only two players I can think of that would be good for us are Markkenen and Jabari Smith Jr. But it's not happening.
I like Franz Wagner, but he's a bad shooter, doesn't fit.

Now that I’m thinking about it… why wouldn’t a Garland-Trae swap work?

Why would Cavs do that? The reason why they're moving off Garland is because Mitc wants to be the primary ball-handler.
Trae is even worse off the ball than Garland.

[Dejounte]

The only two players I can think of that would be good for us are Markkenen and Jabari Smith Jr. But it's not happening.
I like Franz Wagner, but he's a bad shooter, doesn't fit.



Why would Cavs do that? The reason why they're moving off Garland is because Mitc wants to be the primary ball-handler.
Trae is even worse off the ball than Garland.

I was talking about for the Hawks.

They’re either taking win now players for Trae (so that their picks we have won’t be high) or they’re giving us Trae back for their picks so they can properly control their destiny

[exstatic]

Wonder what the Hawks' next moves are. Hoping to see them trade more rotation players out for picks. They get worse here but there's a large drop off between 9/10 and the rest of the teams in the East. Can't see this improving the owed pick to the Spurs by much especially with the Nets leaning into the tank and Bulls ready to blow it up.

Want to see them embrace a rebuild around Trae or even trade him... as long as it's not to the Spurs. Not sure if I oppose a Trae/Wemby pairing as I think the offense is there to outweigh Trae's defensive liabilities but it would be far better for the Hawks to trade Trae and the Spurs retain their pick.

I’m not sure the Bulls are. They’ve never shown an appe e for that, not even for Wemby. We’ll have to wait and see, but they’re not in my “tank” column just yet.

[LeBowen]

I was talking about for the Hawks.

They’re either taking win now players for Trae (so that their picks we have won’t be high) or they’re giving us Trae back for their picks so they can properly control their destiny

Win-now players kind of don't make sense with Jalen and Risacher being the best players left on the roster.
I don't think Magic wants to give up Wagner or Banchero.
Heat doesn't have anything valuable except Bam.
Clippers are old.
Lakers don't have except AD.
Rockets are the only team that would make sense, but they drafted Sheppard.
Jazz aren't giving up Markkanen to get Trae and their other players are nothing special.
No other team is even going to entertain the idea of Trae.

The only way I can see it happening is if Hawks get their picks back, which Spurs hopefully won't do.

[CGD]

The only logical trade destination for Young is Orlando, so how a 3 teams trade would look in that scenario?

Right, it’s Orlando or maybe Lakers.

[CGD]

Welcome home Trae!

Nooooooo!!!

[exstatic]

It isn't a great return for Murray which is good news for Spurs.

Young has publicly put some pressure on Hawks FO. If Hawks don't get better, he might ask to be traded. With that in mind, Hawks have mostly two options:
- Use these picks to do another trade to improve their team.
- Trade Young and rebuild around Jalen Johnson and Risacher. They can't do that without their picks back, Spurs will have to be involved directly or indirectly in a Young trade.

After having draft Castle, I don't see Spurs going after Trae young. Question is what team is interested in Young and what they might offer to Spurs to give Hawks their picks back?

They’re going to have to trade Trae within the calendar year, or he becomes a rental and loses even more value. His value is already low, so it makes no sense to become involved in a Trae trade as a 3rd party. Any 3rd party return will be mid at best, and probably crap, and not worth surrendering those picks.

[exstatic]

Hawks not done yet, they gonna use those assets to bring a win now player who is better fit next to Young than DJM

Young is already pressuring the FO, and becomes a rental next summer by virtue of his 2026 opt out. They have to move him within a calendar year. Makes no sense to bring in win now pieces, when the most likely ATL outcome is a Trae trade within 12 months.

[Raven]

They’re going to have to trade Trae within the calendar year, or he becomes a rental and loses even more value. His value is already low, so it makes no sense to become involved in a Trae trade as a 3rd party. Any 3rd party return will be mid at best, and probably crap, and not worth surrendering those picks.

i think that with this trade, they are committed to the TO machine for at least the next 5 years.

[exstatic]

This scenario isn't on the table. They will blow it up only if they get their picks back.

It is similar to what happen few days ago with Nets. They blew it up by trading Bridges only because they made a side trade with Rockets to get their picks back.

ATLANTA CAN’T MAKE SUCH A SIDE DEAL, BECAUSE THEY ARE PICK BARE. THEY ARE STUCK LIKE CHUCK.

There is a one year clock ticking on Trae becoming a rental, and losing even more value.