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    i think that with this trade, they are committed to the TO machine for at least the next 5 years.
    Trae is opting out in 2026 if they don’t trade him.

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    This scenario isn't on the table. They will blow it up only if they get their picks back.

    It is similar to what happen few days ago with Nets. They blew it up by trading Bridges only because they made a side trade with Rockets to get their picks back.
    Only worked because the Nets had the Suns picks and now the Rockets got them to hold Phoenix hostage and force a trade of Durant or Booker when they get sick of first round exits with a league leading payroll and mountains of luxury tax. Atlanta has nothing of the sort to make that kind of deal.

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    Trae can opt out, but what then?

    He either accepts he has to take a paycut to actually compete or he goes to another treadmill team that is willing to offer him a full max.
    Noone is competing with Trae on ~$60M a year.

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    Only worked because the Nets had the Suns picks and now the Rockets got them to hold Phoenix hostage and force a trade of Durant or Booker when they get sick of first round exits with a league leading payroll and mountains of luxury tax. Atlanta has nothing of the sort to make that kind of deal.
    THIS.

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    Trae can opt out, but what then?

    He either accepts he has to take a paycut to actually compete or he goes to another treadmill team that is willing to offer him a full max.
    Noone is competing with Trae on ~$60M a year.
    yeah, no way he's going anywhere. He is not a respected player.

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    Trae can opt out, but what then?

    He either accepts he has to take a paycut to actually compete or he goes to another treadmill team that is willing to offer him a full max.
    Noone is competing with Trae on ~$60M a year.
    Young will have no trouble finding someone to pay him the base salary of $48 million he'd be opting out of for 26-27 when the salary cap will keep rising 10% every year thanks to the 3x richer TV/streaming deal the league just negotiated starting in 25-26. Hawks are in a pretty bad place.

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    yeah, no way he's going anywhere. He is not a respected player.
    His base salary he'll opt out of is $48 million in a year where the cap will be around $171 million. That's only a marginally higher percentage of the cap than the deal Anunoby just signed. He'll find that base salary bare minimum and get a 4 year deal.

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    His base salary he'll opt out of is $48 million in a year where the cap will be around $171 million. That's only a marginally higher percentage of the cap than the deal Anunoby just signed. He'll find that base salary bare minimum and get a 4 year deal.
    sure but nobody considers him a franchise player or a plug in player. It's atlanta or nothing.

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    sure but nobody considers him a franchise player or a plug in player. It's atlanta or nothing.
    Is Anunoby a franchise player? There is no way there won't be a market to pay Young at least what he opts out of.

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    Pels got fleeced IMO, Dejuante is fools gold

    Hoping the Hawks don't fleece the Spurs as well

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    Is Anunoby a franchise player? There is no way there won't be a market to pay Young at least what he opts out of.
    anunoby can be plugged into any team, trae is a ball dominant player with 0 D and an awful personality. You either have him as you franchise player, or you don't have him. Maybe i can see it with a dominant big to rebound a lot, but man, it's a tall order. Like which team needs a player like that currently.. can't think of one. Philly maybe?

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    anunoby can be plugged into any team, trae is a ball dominant player with 0 D and an awful personality. You either have him as you franchise player, or you don't have him. Maybe i can see it with a dominant big to rebound a lot, but man, it's a tall order. Like which team needs a player like that currently.. can't think of one. Philly maybe?
    Anunoby is also a China doll and still got that money.

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    Never seen so many people so confident in brian wright and what he would do with those valuable picks!

    The picks the picks - do not give atlanta those picks -

    sure - b wright is the pick/crack addict you want holding those crack/picks!

    when has b wright ever used those picks to actually land a good player?

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    Never seen so many people so confident in brian wright and what he would do with those valuable picks!

    The picks the picks - do not give atlanta those picks -

    sure - b wright is the pick/crack addict you want holding those crack/picks!

    when has b wright ever used those picks to actually land a good player?
    When there’s a good draft, and not a crap one like this year? 2025 and 2026 come to mind.

    Also, if you think Wright is crap,why would you trust him to make the right trade?

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    I still have a hard time thinking that the Spurs really want Trae Young.
    If they do, we would have exactly 1 player than can dribble against pressure. Getting into the offense quicker would solve a lot of problems. We took so many crappy late in the clock shots last season. Maybe Castle compensates for the lack of D?

    My gut says they are more looking to grab Garland or maybe D'Aaron Fox in a 3-4 team blockbuster. The smokescreen could be that they are targeting a true lengthy forward here, though, I feel that position will be filled over the next 2 seasons.

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    I just don't see SA trading for Trae. I feel like they are locked in with Castle as PG experiment for 2-3 years now. I think the Spurs are that rigid and think that long term, or whatever you want to call it. The Spurs are not making any splashy trades. I'm happy to be wrong.

    As for Atlanta they may simply be accepting that the trade value for DJM and Trae is low and they got just the best they could get. They very well could be idiots and bungled these trade options. The video of them cheering ecstatically over drafting Risacher was odd. I think the Spurs are happy to let Atlanta continue to create their own problems and sit back and take their pics.

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    Yeah Trae wants out, he’s not an idiot he sees he’s surrounded by a bunch of scrubs and they just traded away Dejounte he knows damn well this team isn’t going to compete and doesn’t want to rot there any longer. Not sure if he’s going to the Spurs but I will be surprised if he’s in a Hawks uniform come October.

    People that wouldn’t want Trae are bugging, he’s 25 years old and never has played in a structured system, Trae and Wemby would instantly be one of the most dynamic duos in the entire league.

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    When there’s a good draft, and not a crap one like this year? 2025 and 2026 come to mind.

    Also, if you think Wright is crap,why would you trust him to make the right trade?
    I have eyes - and I have seen the spurs roster...
    wemby needs an all star next to him and all stars NEVER want to come here - this one does - so why not take a chance?

    * oh yeah - 25/26

    how are you so confident wright wont bungle those drafts?

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    Weird that Dejounte fetched that little value, especially on his new contract (didn’t he have a trade kicker though?). Atlanta didn’t even wait longer, so perhaps the Lakers, supposedly Spurs and others interest in him hasn’t been that great.

    I wouldn’t hate going after CJ McCollum, think he’d fit well on the Spurs and his expensive contract will expire before having to pay Wemby.
    DJ is a nice player but he doesn't move the needle really. It's almost how he's always described

    He's a great fit at NO tho, fills a need in a small market team

    I read McCollum, who I like a lot too, is part of their untouchable core ...

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    Don’t like the fit for the pelicans.
    Why not?

    He fills a need...

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    Now that I’m thinking about it… why wouldn’t a Garland-Trae swap work?
    How can you imagine Trae and Mitc coexist???

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    I have eyes - and I have seen the spurs roster...
    wemby needs an all star next to him and all stars NEVER want to come here - this one does - so why not take a chance?

    * oh yeah - 25/26

    how are you so confident wright wont bungle those drafts?

    That was before Wemby. Wemby is going to get stronger and better, and All Stars will be lining up. You don’t go All-In on the flop when you have a pocket Ace. Trae is no more than an off suit Jack. You wait for the sucker bets to keep pouring before you make the call.

    You don’t bailout ATL and give back 2025 deep draft for Trae. It’s a win for Spurs not to help ATL and avoid a defensive liability Trae. A better player would come plus Spurs don’t help ATL get better.

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    Please no Trae. Please no
    I’ll become a Pels fan I swear.

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    I always thought a Lavine for Trae Young would’ve been a decent trade. Now it probably won’t happen.

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    ATL now have their first-round picks from 2028 to 2031 and first-round picks in 2025 (via the Los Angeles Lakers), 2025 (via the Los Angeles Sacramento Kings), 2027 (via the worst pick between the Milwaukee Bucks and Pelicans).

    They can make a trade for Lauri Markkanen if they can convince him to sign a new contract.

    For instance, unprotected first-round picks form ATL in 2029 and 2031, first-round picks in 2025 from LAL and SAC, first-round picks in 2027 from MIL or NO for Lauri Markkanen.
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