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    This'll go hundreds of pages and well into the 100k's of views, only for them to end up with two picks around 10ish (own and Hawks), fail to trade up for Traore who they'll probably be rumored to and legitimately have their eye on, then trade one for an unprotected '75 1st (no roster space for two lottery picks on this loaded roster) and culminate in the usual: perceived choir boy who lack outlier tools (skill and/or physical) and a defined job description.
    we have enough assets to trade to move us up significantly in the draft.

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    This draft is stacked and not even looking at Flagg as they are some other highly gifted players;

    For me I will be looking at.

    PG - To draft a PG next year it would only be for these two kids.
    * Nolan Traore - If he continues with his development I don't think we have a chance since will will go top 3.
    * Egor Demin - I am not to sure what position he would play but the kid can play will definitely want to see what he bring to BYU.​

    SG - This is probably the deepest class when it comes to SG as you have a multiple players who could be our second best player.

    * Tre Johnson - Will be fun to watch him at Texas the kid is just smooth and can get you buckets pretty easy
    * Dylan Harper - I think he goes in top 5 he is someone you can build a team around my only concern he seems very ball dominate.
    * Hugo Gonzalez - Plays the right way can do everything and would fit into the team concept pretty easy

    SF - Not a strong class but a few guys I like

    * Airious Bailey - Very interested in seeing how his games grows at Rutgers he has the athletic part down lets see if he can put the whole package together
    * Liam Mcneeley - I forgot the Poster who put me on to this kid but I 100% agree I think he would be a perfect fit as our starting SF. The kid can shoot and he is not bad on defense he would feast with Wemby getting all the attention

    PF - Again not a strong draft for PF but a couple will be there if we get multiple picks.

    * Noa Essengue - Have not watched a lot but I have liked what I have seen so far he is someone who I think would also be a great fit and someone who can battle for starting minutes sooner rather then latter
    * Michael Ruzic - He is a little smaller maybe a tweener SF/PF - But I like his game it will be interesting to see how he develops
    Interesting, but way too soon to be so confident, at this point last year some people had guys like Aday Mara or Izan Almansa at no. 1 and they had to pull out their names from the draft because they probably would have gone undrafted or on a 2 way at best. Looong time before we have something tangible to judge them on.

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    we have enough assets to trade to move us up significantly in the draft.
    I didn't say they didn't . . . I'll believe them being aggressive and determining they're getting a certain player at virtually all costs when I see it though.

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    Stop with the tanking narratives, unless Wemby suffers a serious injury we're not getting into top5 odds.

    Pistons - still horrible, draftedd anonther non-shooter.
    Wizards - still horrible and looking to trade those few established players they have, Kuzma is going to be traded.
    Hornets - couldd be trending upwards, but Salaun won't help much. With all the idiots on their roster, chances of them being much better are low.
    Raptors - they have some solid pieces, but surely still horrible.
    Nets - probably going to be the worst team next season.
    Bulls - Demar probably walks, they're shopping Lavine, another horrible team.
    Blazers - still in the early phase of rebuilding.
    Jazz - Ainge isn't going to stop tanking until he gets a start player in the draft.

    With most of the league being one or two injuries away from being horrible. Like Grizzlies this season.

    I'd really like to hear some explanation how do you plan on being worse than those teams that will all be intentionally bad?
    Wemby will surely average like 25/12/5 with DPOY defense, so unless you want to shut him down and piss him off, we can't get good odds for a top3 pick.
    We also got lucky with Wemby, got lucky with moving up to 4th pick and got lucky with Raptors pick.
    If they're idiotic enough to ruin Wemby's season, then they deserve to drop for pushing their luck with lottery odds.

    There's always a gap in W/L between tanking teams and teams that are trying to make play-in, if we're out of the play-in race, we can always just tank in the final few weeks.
    Tanking teams don't win more than ~25 games, that's way too low for a team with top10 player like Wemby.

    Realistically, we can get in 8th-12th best odds range, hope to stay in top10 and then trade up a few spots to get the preferred player.
    Obviously we're not trading up into top3, but going from let's say 9th to 5th should be easily doable with an additional FRP.



    Ofc mainstream media will push it as Cooper Flagg draft, he's a white guy playing for Duke, ffs.
    This. Did no one pay any attention to the last 2-3 weeks of the season? We shut down 2 starters and our sixth man, and still won games.

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    We shut down 2 starters and our sixth man, and still won games.
    Or,

    We shut down 2 starters and our sixth man, and therefore won games.



    (mostly) kidding

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    To get any of these players, we or ATL would have to jump into the top 4. There’s not an enormous difference between the odds for 1 and the odds for 4 from the mid lottery. If you really want to be “realistic”, just strike the top 4 prospects from your list. That would make more sense.
    I would argue that there are better odds that we get lucky with the lottery for a top 4 pick than us being bad enough to naturally end up in the 5-6 range (especially if someone jumps in front of us because of the lottery).

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    * Liam Mcneeley - I forgot the Poster who put me on to this kid but I 100% agree I think he would be a perfect fit as our starting SF. The kid can shoot and he is not bad on defense he would feast with Wemby getting all the attention
    Pretty sure that was me. I've been "high" on this kid early. And by "high", I mean I'd rather have Ace Bailey, but this kid would be a perfect fit around the draft position we would probably have. I like that he's a 3&D, but especially love the fact that he's going to UCONN so we should be able to see how smart he is too.


    Bailey & Mcneeley would fill current PF depth issues but surely that could be addressed before then? I like the UCONN connections with Mcneeley after seeing Dan Hurley apparently in consultation with PATFO for Castle.
    I did not realize PATFO talked with Hurley about Castle. I wonder if we would have drafted Clingan if he would have dropped 1 more spot. Hurley is definitely my personal favorite (at the moment) for taking over Pop someday.

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    Don't have the link, but saw an early Top 10 mock that has us at 9 and 10 and taking Egor and Mcneeley

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    [QUOTE=stnick2261;11089270]Pretty sure that was me. I've been "high" on this kid early. And by "high", I mean I'd rather have Ace Bailey, but this kid would be a perfect fit around the draft position we would probably have. I like that he's a 3&D, but especially love the fact that he's going to UCONN so we should be able to see how smart he is too.

    Yeah, now I remember it was you - Great find and I have to agree he is not a top 5 pick but he is a pick that I think you can easily pencil in as your starting SF. I also agree him going to UCONN is going to help him so much as there coach is legit good

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    Because it’s never too early, Tankathon has their 2025 board up already…

    https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft

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    VJ Edgecombe just put up 20 for the Bahamas (and dunked on Vucevic) against Montenegro. Playing with Ayton, Hield, Gordon.

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    Wild that in the next draft:

    BKN has 4 FRP
    UTH has 3 FRP
    OKC has 3 FRP
    SAS has 2 FRP (maybe 3)
    ORL has 2 FRP

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    Because it’s never too early, Tankathon has their 2025 board up already…

    https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft
    DJ Wagner at #45.

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    Damn so half the picks belong to 5 teams basically haha.

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    I had Collin Murray-Boyles 4 times in a row with diff picks

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    It took me about 5 pulls to get 1-Flagg 10-Demin. Once I got like 3 picks, 8, 10, 11.

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    To get any of these players, we or ATL would have to jump into the top 4. There’s not an enormous difference between the odds for 1 and the odds for 4 from the mid lottery. If you really want to be “realistic”, just strike the top 4 prospects from your list. That would make more sense.
    Actually 1-4 is probably more realistic than 5-7, if you believe Spurs and Atlanta right now are about in the 8-12 range (I don't think they'll be worse than Brooklyn, Washington, Detroit, Utah, Charlotte, Portland and Chicago). Say Spurs and Atlanta end up 9 & 10, which as things stand right now would not seem unreasonable. The combined chances would be 1: 7.5% - 2: 8.1% - 3: 8.8% - 4: 9.7%, which totals a 34.1% chance at a top 4 pick (assuming Spurs own 9&10 seeds pre-lottery), that is a bit more than 1 in 3. Definitely not unrealistic.

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    Wild that in the next draft:

    BKN has 4 FRP
    UTH has 3 FRP
    OKC has 3 FRP
    SAS has 2 FRP (maybe 3)
    ORL has 2 FRP
    It's actually maybe 4 (though unlikely) for SAS. I would love to see 5 teams have 16 of the 30 picks just for the LOLs

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    Because it’s never too early, Tankathon has their 2025 board up already…

    https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft
    This is a really fantastic visual representation for folks to see just how overstated the "5 FRPs for Bridges!" deal is. 2 of those 5 are currently projected to be pick #24 and 25. Pick quality definitely matters. Variables that improve pick quality: 1) for near term picks, being from a bad team 2) being far out in the future if from a currently good team (value comes from the unknown and variance)

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    First roll I got Spurs moving up 5 to get 4th pick for Traore and Atlanta pick at 10 we pick Egor Demim - Sweet

    Yeah, I get your point I freaked out when I saw OK with 3 picks but then looked at trade partners and they all probably early 20’s at best.

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    This is a really fantastic visual representation for folks to see just how overstated the "5 FRPs for Bridges!" deal is. 2 of those 5 are currently projected to be pick #24 and 25. Pick quality definitely matters. Variables that improve pick quality: 1) for near term picks, being from a bad team 2) being far out in the future if from a currently good team (value comes from the unknown and variance)
    And the legend only grows as one article I read said it was 6 FRPs!

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    First roll I got Spurs moving up 5 to get 4th pick for Traore and Atlanta pick at 10 we pick Egor Demim - Sweet

    Yeah, I get your point I freaked out when I saw OK with 3 picks but then looked at trade partners and they all probably early 20’s at best.
    I did about 50 rolls and could never get CHI to drop down to 11, and I think that's going to be the reality. Fits better for the pick to roll to 2026 anyway.

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    VJ Edgecombe just put up 20 for the Bahamas (and dunked on Vucevic) against Montenegro. Playing with Ayton, Hield, Gordon.
    he had another good game today.He may be the number 1 pick if he keeps this up.

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    bumping so more threads don’t get started

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