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    If the Hawks can get a bunch of picks from another team for Young, could they offer the Spurs enough non-Hawks draft capital to get the Spurs to take it in return for the Hawks regaining control over their next three drafts? It would be in the same vein as the Rockets/Nets deal.

    There has to be a point at which the Spurs say yes, though it might not be possible for the Hawks to get there. The picks the Hawks got in the Dejounte trade help towards this end, though, and it's possible that's exactly why they traded Dejounte.
    Supposedly, the offers for Trae have been less than the offers for DJ were. And no, we can’t get him at that price.

    As for the Brooklyn/Houston exchange, it’s a very unique set of cir stances. Brooklyn was able to get their hostage picks back in exchange for Phoenix’s hostage picks, which could give HOU a big edge in any KD or Book trade. There is no ATL/SAS analog to this. ATL is ed because their pick cupboard is bare, and they won’t really be able to replenish it to any great degree.

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    Supposedly, the offers for Trae have been less than the offers for DJ were. And no, we can’t get him at that price.

    As for the Brooklyn/Houston exchange, it’s a very unique set of cir stances. Brooklyn was able to get their hostage picks back in exchange for Phoenix’s hostage picks, which could give HOU a big edge in any KD or Book trade. There is no ATL/SAS analog to this. ATL is ed because their pick cupboard is bare, and they won’t really be able to replenish it to any great degree.
    The thing is, the Hawks' cupboard isn't bare anymore with the picks they got for Dejounte. That's why I wrote that post.

    If the Hawks are willing to tear it down all the way to the studs to get their picks back, including trading Young, could they ac ulate enough to get the Spurs to give up control of the Hawks' draft for the next three years?

    Admittedly it's pure speculation, though I did qualify it by saying that the Hawks getting enough draft assets to win the Spurs over might be impossible.

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    Haven’t seen this scenario brought up. Any thoughts on hawks trading risacher to spurs along with trae in exchange for their picks back. Who would pull the trigger and is it even possible??

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    How bout the Spurs give the Hawks picks back in 25 and 26 (we keep 27) to give Atlanta control of their 25 and 26 drafts.

    Atlanta sends Trae Young and the Lakers 2025 pick to the Spurs.

    It’s way in the Spurs favour but the Spurs are in a very unique position as only they can allow the Hawks to enter the Flagg stakes given they own their picks. Opening up the avenue for Atlanta to tank and get a top 5 pick in 2025 is easily worth two unprotected picks in a vacuum.

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    The thing is, the Hawks' cupboard isn't bare anymore with the picks they got for Dejounte. That's why I wrote that post.

    If the Hawks are willing to tear it down all the way to the studs to get their picks back, including trading Young, could they ac ulate enough to get the Spurs to give up control of the Hawks' draft for the next three years?

    Admittedly it's pure speculation, though I did qualify it by saying that the Hawks getting enough draft assets to win the Spurs over might be impossible.
    1 mid, 1 crap. Not even a good start. I don’t think I would trade the Minnesota pick and swap we just got for them.

    Why is everyone so concerned with making ATL whole? them. They ed up, and there’s a price to be paid for that.

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    How bout the Spurs give the Hawks picks back in 25 and 26 (we keep 27) to give Atlanta control of their 25 and 26 drafts.

    Atlanta sends Trae Young and the Lakers 2025 pick to the Spurs.

    It’s way in the Spurs favour but the Spurs are in a very unique position as only they can allow the Hawks to enter the Flagg stakes given they own their picks. Opening up the avenue for Atlanta to tank and get a top 5 pick in 2025 is easily worth two unprotected picks in a vacuum.

    i rather spurs keep the picks and gamble, but i dont hate this. But if rissacher is on the table, is a first lotto pick plus a french wemby brother, who will likely make wemby happy, better than multi future picks that will likely land in the 20’s.

    honest question since there’s a high chance rissacher is a bust.

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    1 mid, 1 crap. Not even a good start. I don’t think I would trade the Minnesota pick and swap we just got for them.

    Why is everyone so concerned with making ATL whole? them. They ed up, and there’s a price to be paid for that.
    Here is where ex and I, two folks who agree on almost nothing when it comes to the Spurs, can come together and find common ground. Unity!

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    i rather spurs keep the picks and gamble, but i dont hate this. But if rissacher is on the table, is a first lotto pick plus a french wemby brother, who will likely make wemby happy, better than multi future picks that will likely land in the 20’s.
    I don’t see the Hawks giving up Risacher. It’s like one big step backwards to take 1.5 steps forward (tanking for the 25 draft).

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    Which is ironic coming from an organization that criticizes ins utions like Trump, with his fealty pledges and cult of personality
    Spurs run San Antonio like Kim Yong-Un. You criticize the F.O. you‘ll lose your job. And then Pop will go on a tirade about freedom of speech

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    I‘m not even sure Risacher would be a top 20 pick in the 2025 draft and he damn sure wouldn‘t be top 10. Keep the 25 picks no matter what, we‘re about to get us a legit co-star

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    I don’t see the Hawks giving up Risacher. It’s like one big step backwards to take 1.5 steps forward (tanking for the 25 draft).

    I would tend to agree, but given how bad of a mess/limbo the hawks are in, if the tables were turned I would be all for the spurs pulling the trigger to get the rebuild started quicker. Rissacher has got to be the weakest pick sonce maybe even bfore bennet.

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    1 mid, 1 crap. Not even a good start. I don’t think I would trade the Minnesota pick and swap we just got for them.

    Why is everyone so concerned with making ATL whole? them. They ed up, and there’s a price to be paid for that.
    You're misreading my post. I only asked if there was a threshold at which the Spurs would be willing to give up control of the Hawks' drafts. I didn't say that the Spurs should be willing to trade away that control for what the Hawks currently have.

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    There isn’t enough bad to say about these spineless bootlicking suckers. Absolutely no integrity, or spine. They’ll willingly parrot whatever party line the front office deigns fit. It’s insulting this is the sort of media we’re stuck with. They’re like a far less intelligent but far more mediocre, real life version of that Iraqi minister of information guy/meme from back in the day.
    I'vs never seen journslists following a team with less inside infos. No sources, nada

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    I‘m not even sure Risacher would be a top 20 pick in the 2025 draft and he damn sure wouldn‘t be top 10. Keep the 25 picks no matter what, we‘re about to get us a legit co-star
    Looking at the early 2025 mocks and what I already know about the draft.

    I think next year is being oversold because there’s about 8 guys who look super interesting. Flagg, Traore, Harper, Bailey, Edgecombe, Tre J, Hugo and McNeely.

    I could easily see Risacher in that 7-12 conversation. No way he’s a late 1st.

    No doubt some of these early hyped 25 guys will the bed this season.

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    Haven’t seen this scenario brought up. Any thoughts on hawks trading risacher to spurs along with trae in exchange for their picks back. Who would pull the trigger and is it even possible??
    That's 55M between both players

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    I'vs never seen journslists following a team with less inside infos. No sources, nada
    Even worse, at times they’ll tease that they have info but they can’t share it. They forget that they’re ing journalists, not Spurs PR team.

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    There are probably other moves coming... but there is no ing way PATFO gives Markkanen a quater of a billion dollars.

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    The Spurs have officially won the 2022 Dejounte Murray trade (msn.com)

    As much flack as Brian Wright gets for some of his decisions from a spoiled Spurs fan base, one thing can’t be denied: a lot of things seem to keep going right, and as more of the acquisitions he acquires turn into usable assets, the more respect he will continue to earn. At least for now, the Murray trade is his greatest achievement.

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    The Spurs have officially won the 2022 Dejounte Murray trade (msn.com)

    As much flack as Brian Wright gets for some of his decisions from a spoiled Spurs fan base, one thing can’t be denied: a lot of things seem to keep going right, and as more of the acquisitions he acquires turn into usable assets, the more respect he will continue to earn. At least for now, the Murray trade is his greatest achievement.
    The Derozan and Jakob deals were good pieces of work too, even as we now about Jakob subsequently turning into 30 and 31 FRPs.

    The White trade is still meh, but could be vindicated in 2028, or if they turn the 4 SRPs and/or Graham into something useful.

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    The Derozan and Jakob deals were good pieces of work too, even as we now about Jakob subsequently turning into 30 and 31 FRPs.

    The White trade is still meh, but could be vindicated in 2028, or if they turn the 4 SRPs and/or Graham into something useful.
    I was not that sorry to see White go at the time, due to his painfully low 3PT shooting %. I guess that is a lesson in patience in that regard.

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    The Spurs have officially won the 2022 Dejounte Murray trade (msn.com)

    As much flack as Brian Wright gets for some of his decisions from a spoiled Spurs fan base, one thing can’t be denied: a lot of things seem to keep going right, and as more of the acquisitions he acquires turn into usable assets, the more respect he will continue to earn. At least for now, the Murray trade is his greatest achievement.
    And the Sixers won the MCW trade. Hinkie wasn't -canned because he lost trades. He was -canned because he couldn't do anything else besides tear things down to collect assets. He was apathetic about drafting, hated trying to sign anybody if he couldn't lock them into long-term cheap deals, alienated fans, other front offices and players.

    Wright has been a pretty good trade negotiator, and as I've said, I don't lay the team's apparent trajectory at his feet. But so far all we're seeing is the demo, well past the point where construction should have started. And I can't tell you how much I can't stand people who lay up in seats of power guzzling money for years and years talking down on regular folks and calling them en led. I hate it in government; I hate it in business; and I hate it here. Spurs fans aren't spoiled for wanting to see improvement after a half-decade of bull . The Spurs front office is en led for thinking they shouldn't have to show progress to keep their jobs. No other front offices gets to assume they'll still be in power in seven years. It's not even a thought for folks like Pop and RC, who know they can bill the team for millions of dollars for the rest of their lives.

    I'm not talking about you Knoxxx when I say that. But I'm more than done with the Spurs stagnancy. It's Southern Gothic, in NBA form.

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    And the Sixers won the MCW trade. Hinkie wasn't -canned because he lost trades. He was -canned because he couldn't do anything else besides tear things down to collect assets. He was apathetic about drafting, hated trying to sign anybody if he couldn't lock them into long-term cheap deals, alienated fans, other front offices and players.

    Wright has been a pretty good trade negotiator, and as I've said, I don't lay the team's apparent trajectory at his feet. But so far all we're seeing is the demo, well past the point where construction should have started. And I can't tell you how much I can't stand people who lay up in seats of power guzzling money for years and years talking down on regular folks and calling them en led. I hate it in government; I hate it in business; and I hate it here. Spurs fans aren't spoiled for wanting to see improvement after a half-decade of bull . The Spurs front office is en led for thinking they shouldn't have to show progress to keep their jobs. No other front offices gets to assume they'll still be in power in seven years. It's not even a thought for folks like Pop and RC, who know they can bill the team for millions of dollars for the rest of their lives.

    I'm not talking about you Knoxxx when I say that. But I'm more than done with the Spurs stagnancy. It's Southern Gothic, in NBA form.
    incredibly well said. I’m also real iffy in presuming that Wemby resigns with us on the heels of Kawhi requesting a trade out.

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    And the Sixers won the MCW trade. Hinkie wasn't -canned because he lost trades. He was -canned because he couldn't do anything else besides tear things down to collect assets. He was apathetic about drafting, hated trying to sign anybody if he couldn't lock them into long-term cheap deals, alienated fans, other front offices and players.

    Wright has been a pretty good trade negotiator, and as I've said, I don't lay the team's apparent trajectory at his feet. But so far all we're seeing is the demo, well past the point where construction should have started. And I can't tell you how much I can't stand people who lay up in seats of power guzzling money for years and years talking down on regular folks and calling them en led. I hate it in government; I hate it in business; and I hate it here. Spurs fans aren't spoiled for wanting to see improvement after a half-decade of bull . The Spurs front office is en led for thinking they shouldn't have to show progress to keep their jobs. No other front offices gets to assume they'll still be in power in seven years. It's not even a thought for folks like Pop and RC, who know they can bill the team for millions of dollars for the rest of their lives.

    I'm not talking about you Knoxxx when I say that. But I'm more than done with the Spurs stagnancy. It's Southern Gothic, in NBA form.
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