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    Next year the free agency class is always better, until it arrives and then it isn’t.
    Even if it was better the Spurs wouldn't sign anyone anyway.

    The only notable free agents we have signed in 4 years are Doug McDermott and Zach Collins who was completely toxic because of his season ending foot and ankle injuries

    Looking at Brian Wrights track record the last thing you probably want him to be doing is trying to convince an nba player to play in SA.

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    So the consensus seems to be no FAs worth adding but haha made ya look!

    (personally I think veteran salaries are largely out of control and bad deals)

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    After the moves we made at the draft, there smartest thing for the Spurs to do is to basically stand pat on this also-ran list of FAs. Like others have mentioned, only 1+1 deals on some vets who maybe can add some semblance of structure, maybe the the allure for the player of showing something and getting traded at the deadline.

    The Spurs clearly do not place a priority on adding talent to the team right now. To punt on #8 and #35 only to give a stupid contract to one of these scrubs would be truly bonk crazy.

    I do love seeing this slow changing of tune by the sniffers who said we should be done with tanking now buying into PAFTO's decision to soft tank yet again.

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    It’s not a soft tank but an incidental tank. If we mostly just run with what we had while adding Castle, that’s a bet on existing players improving and also team synergy. That’s not a deliberate tank.

    If we can bring a player of Castle’s caliber in every draft that’s a reasonable process to follow even if it’s not the quick fix we all want it this give it to me now society. We like to open our x-mas presents early if we can get away with it.

    The larger blueprint could be to play 2024 UConn and 2014 Spurs ball where players are part of system that keeps their individual numbers lower. But the team wins and the players are happy and agree to team friendly deals. Sort of an egalitarian system aside from Wemby. And if they don’t like that, we offload them for draft assets and always keep that war chest well stocked.

    Also part of the draft replenishment approach to manage payroll is the pick swaps. That’s a bet on ourselves to return to dominance, while we avoid relying on our own watered down draft picks to sustain it.

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    It’s not a soft tank but an incidental tank. If we mostly just run with what we had while adding Castle, that’s a bet on existing players improving and also team synergy. That’s not a deliberate tank.

    If we can bring a player of Castle’s caliber in every draft that’s a reasonable process to follow even if it’s not the quick fix we all want it this give it to me now society. We like to open our x-mas presents early if we can get away with it.

    The larger blueprint could be to play 2024 UConn and 2014 Spurs ball where players are part of system that keeps their individual numbers lower. But the team wins and the players are happy and agree to team friendly deals. Sort of an egalitarian system aside from Wemby. And if they don’t like that, we offload them for draft assets and always keep that war chest well stocked.

    Also part of the draft replenishment approach to manage payroll is the pick swaps. That’s a bet on ourselves to return to dominance, while we avoid relying on our own watered down draft picks to sustain it.
    Normally I'd agree with you... but the bet on existing players improving + adding one of the greatest rookies of all time led us to the exact same record last year.

    Call it a soft tank, or an incidental tank, or an Abrams Tank it's clear that it's not a prioritization on adding talent to the roster in a meaningful way. That's what I call a soft tank (as opposed to a hard tank, where the FO strips assets off the team to be worse).But I'm fine with whatever tank-related nomenclature we decide upon

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    I'll add... yes, maybe the internal growth of the team plus the addition of Castle leads to +10 wins this year, and we're a 32 win team (very possible). It's still far less than we'd achieve with a concerted effort to improve the talent on the team, apparently done because our focus is the 2025 draft. That's what I call soft tank. Essentially: don't make roster moves to sacrifice your projected draft position = soft tank. Hard tank would be making moves (roster moves or coaching decisions) to purposely improve your draft position.

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    We going to sign Barlow to a real contract or literally let him go for nothing which it seems is happening unfortunately.

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    We going to sign Barlow to a real contract or literally let him go for nothing which it seems is happening unfortunately.
    He is hot garbage.

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    as another poster mentioned Simone Fontecchio would be a nice addition as well.
    Simone isn't a floor raising signing, but he"d definitely be a good signing to strengthen the combo forward depth.

    And he's an elite knock down shooter from 3 (42.6% last season) which the team badly needs. I would love them acquiring him to start or be the first forward - him and Julian are tweeners, so they can interchangeable play SF/PF - off the bench.

    I hope he's on their target list.

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    The problem with the spurs is they can make moves(usually just small ones) , they just don't - or mess up the ones they can make. They basically just threw away a #8 pick and a #35 pick. Neither of those moves will improve the team now even a little. For those moves to pan out we have to be worse than the TWolves in 2030 and the 2031 pick has to be 7 or better. Dilly will be a 6 year pro by the time that happens. If any player picked 8 or later from this draft makes an all rookie team, the spurs will have shot themselves in the foot once again. Pop, RC and Wright most likely won't be around in 2030, so their actions will affect the people in charge then. Some front office we have.
    Disagree. Looks like stockpiling assets to make a Bridges, Durant, PG13 kind of trade without leaving their draft cupboard bare the way the Knicks, Suns, and Clippers have in those trades.

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    Disagree. Looks like stockpiling assets to make a Bridges, Durant, PG13 kind of trade without leaving their draft cupboard bare the way the Knicks, Suns, and Clippers have in those trades.
    C'mon man, you've been a Spurs fan long enough than to fall victim to the promise of some future big trade. Unless Brian Wright knows Holt will sell them team and he'll get fired so he's setting up some other ownership and front office to make a big move

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    C'mon man, you've been a Spurs fan long enough than to fall victim to the promise of some future big trade. Unless Brian Wright knows Holt will sell them team and he'll get fired so he's setting up some other ownership and front office to make a big move
    Sounds more reasonable than they did it because they're cheap when they have to hit a salary floor anyways and rookie contracts are cheap.

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    Only one from that list I would consider is Malik Beasley as a 3 and D prospect for the future.

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    What a depressing list. I’d add Gary Trent to this list though. Good shooter and TOR is moving on from him.

    I’m liking the trade market better.
    Trent should be there. I must have accidentally deleted him.

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    Its not going to happen, but still.. just for a hypothetical case... why shouldn't the Spurs pursue Paul George in free agency? He is a free agent and it won't cost any draft picks to get him.. it might require, as Chinook pointed out, for the Spurs to jettison Calamity Branham and Keldon Johnson apart from getting out of Devonte Graham's contract, but these are doable, isn't it and won't cost much, am I right?

    George doesn't "fit" the Spurs timeline but he is a versatile player who can aid in the development of Wemby, Castle, Vassell and Sochan even further and by the time, his behemoth 4-year 200 million $ odd contract comes to an end, Wemby will be out of his rookie scale and they should be able to capitalize on their draft picks with some good talent in the next 2-3 years too. Why shouldn't the Spurs try to get George offering him a chance to play for Pop and to play with a genuine once-in-a-generation up and comer talent in Wemby? timvp?
    Just too much of a timeline mismatch, IMO. Flexibility if a younger star becomes available is more important.

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    Just too much of a timeline mismatch, IMO. Flexibility if a younger star becomes available is more important.
    Odds SA tries to trade way to some upgrades this season even if more minor?

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    Just too much of a timeline mismatch, IMO. Flexibility if a younger star becomes available is more important.
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    If his spinal issue checks out medically, I would think he'd be the number one target. He's not as big all around as Brogdon and a different type of player, but it's the same general idea of having multiple ball handlers, improved floor spacing and switch ability.
    Yeah, I think I prefer Melton if he's healthy. If the Spurs are trying to build the type of multi-ballhandling, switch-everything team the Castle pick suggests they are trying to build, Melton is a damn good fit as the fifth starter.

    But, tbh, I don't know for sure that's the type of team the Spurs are trying to build. And Melton might be broken -- spinal injury doesn't sound good.

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    Odds SA tries to trade way to some upgrades this season even if more minor?
    Probably just as likely as a free agent signing. But it'd be difficult to pinpoint targets.

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    Yes, it's what I consider a bad opinion. People have them, DAF. Need I direct you to the article lauding them trading Dillingham so you can see what one looks like?

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    Yes, it's what I consider a bad opinion. People have them, DAF. Need I direct you to the article lauding them trading Dillingham so you can see what one looks like?
    No, need. I already have your "Spurs should go for George or Butler" as example. Just busting your balls, tbh.

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    Need a point guard and backup center over anything else. They don’t need to be special, just average level players will yield a huge improvement from last season

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    Need a point guard and backup center over anything else. They don’t need to be special, just average level players will yield a huge improvement from last season
    Point guards will be Castle and Tre and Collins will have to play because of his contract. Spurs need 6'9 / 6'10" wings that can defend and shoot the 3.

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    Point guards will be Castle and Tre and Collins will have to play because of his contract. Spurs need 6'9 / 6'10" wings that can defend and shoot the 3.
    Castle at point guard is wishful thinking. And isn’t this Collins’ last contract year? He doesn’t need more playing time. We’ve seen what he’s capable of and it’s not pretty.

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