2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[Leetonidas]

I think you'd have to change that Hornets fake first to the Spurs 2030 with the DAL+MIN swaps. I'd probably want to protect the 2026 top 4 since the Spurs have that swap with Atlanta but would be willing to give it unprotected if it's between that or the 2025 ATL pick.

As long as we keep both 2025 picks I'm good with trading them whatever combo of picks they want tbh

[Degoat]

Utah loses some leverage with Markkanen becoming a free agent soon, plus by all accounts Utah wants to be bad next year. I don’t love the Markkanen fit tho

[Dverde]

11090538[/URL]]Keldon would definitely be involved in a Markannen trade.

If the Warriors were willing to part with Kuminga then I think their offer would trump any of the Spurs ones. Future GSW picks after Steph is gone would be juicy AF tbh.

I would think Keldon + 2 unprotected picks is better than Kuminga and one unprotected pick. Keldon also known as a good teammate whose inner circle doesn’t whine about touches on social media. Eye of the beholder tho

[Baam]

Markkanen makes the offense/spacing nuclear. A pass first PG with Wemby Markkanen stretching the floor is stupid. You can't wait 5 years to do something with someone as good as Wemby.

[poopbox]

Spurs should know what the Warriors can offer. We shouldn’t be bidding with themselves like the Timberwolves for Gobert. No way it’s worth giving up the whole ATL bag.

Well the Timberwolves just made the Conference Finals and they suckered a dumb team into drafting the exact type they need for them, so I think they are doing ok.

When you look across the board at the teams who actually win basketball games and compete for les...they all have one thing in common. They all have at least one player they got as an overpay in either salary or what they had to give up to give up in a trade.

The Hawks missed the playoffs and got the number 1 pick this year. They were also 1 more win away from making the playoffs and getting the 16th pick this year.

[Dejounte]

Markkanen makes the offense/spacing nuclear. A pass first PG with Wemby Markkanen stretching the floor is stupid. You can't wait 5 years to do something with someone as good as Wemby.

It’s a supercharged version of Towns and Gobert.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Eubanks 2 years 10 million to the Jazz.

[Mugen]

Yeah people on here thinking we are similar to OKC in any way shape or form forget that we have the trash in our front office and OKC has Presti who is arguably the best GM in the league.

He lost both his franchise players, built the team back up from nothing with picks, and is now paying the players he should pay to improve his team. And he doing all of this in ing Oklahoma which is one of the least desirable places to be in the US. If he ever went to a big market it would be over for the league, he'd have the 10 of the top 25 players lining up to play for him.

Getting rid of Giddey WHILE not giving up a draft pick damn near gets him GM of the year nod.

I'm not convinced he doesn't swoop in on these Lauri talks and get him to

Pretty much the only people on the board that don't give Presti his followers are the PATFO Sniffers.

BWrong & Co aren't even on the same stratoshphere as him tbh. This aint' your Timmy era Spurs FO

[Chinook]

Chinook enlighten us

The Spurs would be trading for Mark without an extension in place due to the extend-and-trade restrictions. After that, they can do whatever. I'd consider a likely Spurs package to be Jones, Sochan and maybe Branham along with CHI25, ATL25, ATL 27 and MIN31. Then the Spurs waive Graham, give the cap space to Mark, use Bird rights for Mamu and the room exception in Osman.

Paul, Wesley, Nunez
Vassell, Champagnie
Castle, Johnson, Cissoko
Markkanen, Osman, Mamukelashvili
Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

With one last roster spot open if Branham is included.

[Mugen]

I would think Keldon + 2 unprotected picks is better than Kuminga and one unprotected pick. Keldon also known as a good teammate whose inner circle doesn’t whine about touches on social media. Eye of the beholder tho

Kuminga is a significantly better prospect than Keldon. Not even sure Keldon would be considered a prospect anymore. His ceiling is pretty much serviceable bench player.

Depends on the picks the Spurs are offering. Their best assets are the ATL picks and even those aren't as good as a GSW pick from 2028 - 2031 from when Steph is gone tbh.

I'd assume Sochan would also be on the table which bridges the gap a smidge I'd say.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The thought of what Ainge would do to BWrong with a guy on an expiring like Markkanen is legit terrifying tbh

Ok i give Ainge consent to bend over Wrong.

Wait, if we're talking about Brian Wright, why use Ainge's name and not the actual GM for the Jazz?

[baseline bum]

Yeah people on here thinking we are similar to OKC in any way shape or form forget that we have the trash in our front office and OKC has Presti who is arguably the best GM in the league.

He lost both his franchise players, built the team back up from nothing with picks, and is now paying the players he should pay to improve his team. And he doing all of this in ing Oklahoma which is one of the least desirable places to be in the US. If he ever went to a big market it would be over for the league, he'd have the 10 of the top 25 players lining up to play for him.

Getting rid of Giddey WHILE not giving up a draft pick damn near gets him GM of the year nod.

I'm not convinced he doesn't swoop in on these Lauri talks and get him to

If I would have known RC was going to kick himself upstairs and hand the reigns to a nobody in ten years I would have just fired him in 2007 and kept Presti.

[Mr. Body]

Pretty much the only people on the board that don't give Presti his followers are the PATFO Sniffers.

BWrong & Co aren't even on the same stratoshphere as him tbh. This aint' your Timmy era Spurs FO

Falling to your knees every chance you get in front of Presti's dropping trousers. Just go be a Thunder fan, you dork.

[Chinook]

Keldon would definitely be involved in a Markannen trade.

If the Warriors were willing to part with Kuminga then I think their offer would trump any of the Spurs ones. Future GSW picks after Steph is gone would be juicy AF tbh.

I actually don't think Keldon would be involved. The value just isn't there for either team.

[Mr. Body]

Presti drafted three future MVPs and still couldn't get to the Finals more than once.

[SpursDynasty85]

The Spurs would be trading for Mark without an extension in place due to the extend-and-trade restrictions. After that, they can do whatever. I'd consider a likely Spurs package to be Jones, Sochan and maybe Branham along with CHI25, ATL25, ATL 27 and MIN31. Then the Spurs waive Graham, give the cap space to Mark, use Bird rights for Mamu and the room exception in Osman.

Paul, Wesley, Nunez
Vassell, Champagnie
Castle, Johnson, Cissoko
Markkanen, Osman, Mamukelashvili
Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

With one last roster spot open if Branham is included.

Wouldn't you offer Spurs picks instead of the unprotected ATL ones?

[poopbox]

I actually don't think Keldon would be involved. The value just isn't there for either team.

I would think Keldon would hold tremendous value for a team about to blow it up and tank, and probably wanting to do that for as cheaply as possible, which Keldon's declining contract helps with

[DAF86]

Once again I'm posting the Jazz fan's view on things and Markkanen's somewhat complicated situation.
Removed the bit about potential suitors since OKC, Sixers and Nets had different plans.

It seems like the only trade possibility that makes sense for Lauri are the Spurs.

[poopbox]

Presti drafted three future MVPs and still couldn't get to the Finals more than once.

How many MVP's has Brian Wright drafted?

How many Finals appearances do teams he constructed have?

[Chinook]

I would think Keldon would hold tremendous value for a team about to blow it up and tank, and probably wanting to do that for as cheaply as possible, which Keldon's declining contract helps with

He wouldn't hold nearly the value Sochan and Jones would.

[DAF86]

The Spurs would be trading for Mark without an extension in place due to the extend-and-trade restrictions. After that, they can do whatever. I'd consider a likely Spurs package to be Jones, Sochan and maybe Branham along with CHI25, ATL25, ATL 27 and MIN31. Then the Spurs waive Graham, give the cap space to Mark, use Bird rights for Mamu and the room exception in Osman.

Paul, Wesley, Nunez
Vassell, Champagnie
Castle, Johnson, Cissoko
Markkanen, Osman, Mamukelashvili
Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

With one last roster spot open if Branham is included.

That's way too much. The Jazz don't have any leverage to be asking for any of the Hawks' picks.

Hornets pick, Bulls pick, Wolves' pick and Spurs 27 is the absolute most I would give up for a player that isn't even an all-star. If the Jazz aren't interested then they can lose Markkanen for nothing in free agency.

[LeBowen]

That's way too much. The Jazz don't have any leverage to be asking for any of the Hawks' picks.

Hornets pick, Bulls pick, Wolves' pick and Spurs 27 is the absolute most I would give up for a player that isn't even an all-star. If the Jazz aren't interested then they can lose Markkanen for nothing in free agency.

I also suggested those picks if it was Collins going the other way.
If they want one more, I'd do both '25 and '27, but worse of SAS/ATL.
If they want Jeremy, they can't have unprotected SAS '27.

[Mugen]

Falling to your knees every chance you get in front of Presti's dropping trousers. Just go be a Thunder fan, you dork.

Presti drafted three future MVPs and still couldn't get to the Finals more than once.

Textbook example of a boomer PATFO sniffer still living 10 years in the past

[LeBowen]

Textbook example of a boomer PATFO sniffer still living 10 years in the past

To me one of the best qualities a GM can have is getting out of a bad situation.
How's it Presti's fault that OKC ownership refused to pay Harden?
Or that KD kept choking as the first option?

GMs build the rosters, they can't suit up and play.

Marks got KD and Kyrie, indulged all their wishes, they still ed him over and he still managed to pivot and get most of the assets back.
If we ended up with Scoot, right now we'd be talking about if it's better to move the team to Vegas or Seattle.

[Spurs9]

Good to see we dodged getting KCP.