Disagree. Keldon would be a "young piece" they get back and try to sell the Jazz fans tbh.
I could see Sochan being traded but he seems like the same archetype as Taylor Hendricks.
I think it'd be Keldon and one or two of the ATL picks if they wanted to be compe ive. People need to stop including the Charlotte '25 1st as if it has any actual value tbh
GSW had a newish GM who will want to make a splash especially losing Klay. I think it comes down to Kuminga. They have to want to include him and Utah has to see him as a pillar to build a contender. If no Kuminga than the Spurs better get the trade.
I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense but just wanted to add one more detail to this convo. I do recall the situation a bit and it seemed that Presti had a choice of keeping 3 of 4 (Harden, Westbrook, KD, and Ibaka). He thought letting Harden go was best because Harden also wanted to be the MAN but he would've resigned still had he gotten his money.
That's less than the Knicks got for Bridges, who doesn't have Mark's upside. The Jazz can just renegotiate and extend Mark themselves in August and then try again next year. They aren't under the gun.
I wouldn't trade Sochan nor the ATL 25. Spurs can also offer some swaps like the 2030 one I'd assume. Utah is losing a lot of leverage because not a lot of teams own draft picks and have cap space. Frontloading the contract would be a key thing to me.
Presti has a huge number of ups. Gifting Dallas Lively is among them. Gifting Houston Sengun is one of them. He's nailed his top lotto picks. He's gotten good role players. But he's sitting on a reputation largely based on snaring picks, a ton of them coming from Kawhi himself, and SGA, who was a throw-in. Jalen Williams was a great pick-up. He fell into Chet and didn't mess that pick up.
They'll probably win a championship, but their first foray into the playoffs this year was much, much worse than people think. They wrecked an injured, bad team, then gave up little resistance to a Dallas team rebuilding on the fly. It's a team with some real problems still, and the signing of Hartenstein will help, but they still have more to figure out. In the end, without that SGA gift they'd still be treading water.
They're not under the gun, but they're also not in that great of a situation.
Markkanen already said he's not going to accept another season of being uncompe ive after they shut him down two years in a row only to get a #10 pick in one of the worst drafts ever.
He has no reason to sign an extension before he sees the direction Ainge takes.
If they don't get at least one more proven player, he's got no reason to sign an extension and be stuck there for an entire season.
With two upcoming drafts projected to be really strong, I'm pretty sure Ainge wants to tank.
As good as Markkanen is, he's not a #1 option if you actually want to win it all.
And Jazz aren't getting a true #1 option via trade or FA.
I'd look at it this way.
They got 9 FRPs, 3 swaps, Sexton and Markkanen for Gobert and Mitc .
They can now extend it to 12 or 13 FRPs and Sexton, with just one of those picks being used so far (Walker Kessler).
I'd say that's one of the best hauls ever for a team that failed to contend.
Mikal Bridges has much more utilty than Markkanen, who is a no-defense shooter.
Then you tell him to try his luck getting a better package elsewhere. One doesn’t exist outside of the Thunder who don’t really have the fit with commitments to Holmgren & Hartenstein.
The Spurs can be patient and wait for him to hit the open market. Utah will come dialing back PATFO if they have another trade, that the Spurs will be able to beat.
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Wild overpay for a one time all star on an expiring contract. If you compare it with the Mikal Bridges trade, it's almost the same picks but wildly more promising. Spurs wouldn't be a contender after that trade anyway. Better to hold if that's the price tag.
I don't see the Spurs overspending their assets unless it is a top 10 NBA player. Markkanen is a nice player, but he's not a top 10 player, so I don't see the Spurs trading 5-6 draft picks for him. NYC can't help itself when it comes to trading for players. Smart franchises don't vomit draft picks for good, but not great players.
I don't think the Spurs will do that and I don't think the Warriors will do that. Both teams have been patient and build smartly. There are irrational teams out there that overspend for good/not great talent, but they've already given up all their assets. Maybe the Thunder would spend the draft capital because they have so much of it, but even they don't overpay for players. So I see the Jazz as either signing Markkanen or trading him for a good, but not highway robbery price. That said, Danny freaking Ainge always seems to find an over eager buyer.
If they’re gonna go hard for Lauri I wouldn’t mind seeing Collier packaged in there.
Lauri has also never played in a finals, like Bridges did, and doesn't fit into a nice little box, 3 and D wing, like Bridges does.
I'm sure the Knicks could have gotten Lauri with what they paid to get Bridges. But they didn't.
Not sure about Lauri's "upside". He a few months younger than Bridges.
That's more or less (obviously nailing the exact iteration of star trades extremely difficult) what it'll take and whether he makes it or not in a given season, Markkanen is clearly an All-Star caliber player at this point.
People need to get over the price and face the reality if this team wants to trade for an in prime star.
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They just gave a backup center 30 million dollars a year
Meh, Markkanen might be better offensively, but Bridges is a two-way player. Both guys' ceiling is borderline all-star, so I'd say they are more or less on the same level. Bridges was also secured for one more year.
And sure, the Jazz and Markkanen could get to an agreement but it's clear that that's not what either party wants. As long as the Jazz have Markkanen on their roster, they're stuck in mediocrity like the Spurs were with Dejounte. They need to get rid of him to bottom out, and I'm sure they would love to do that for the 2025 draft, so now.
The Jazz are in no position to demand a higher price than what the Nets got for Bridges. They obviously are going to try, but no team should be dumb enough to buy the bluff and accept it, tbh.
Keldon, the Hornets pick (yeah, Mugen we know it's worth nothing, but let's the Jazz save some face with casuals), the Chicago pick, the Wolves pick, and whichever is worse from the Spurs and Hawks pick in 25 or 27. If the Jazz don't like it, then so be it. Just go for Markkanen (or any other guy) in the next free agency.
Who does Zhang's profile picture look AI created?
Say it with me… all stars who are winners will never become available. Y’all need to stop being picky.
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Bridges also won two national championships in college. I feel like he's a bit overrated, but definitely provides the multiple qualities needed to win at a high level. Knicks seemed to value his synergy with former teammates, too. Not really sure what Markkanen has ever done. Sure, it would be good to have a shooter, but more than the CHA or CHI starts getting into overpay territory. There's a lot of empty stats to him.
Holy , I was thinking about this the other day and I came up with "The Scandinavian Finnishing School of Lauri Markkanen". A wild coincidence we both game up with the same hypothetical le.
And we passed on Shengun for Primo, probably wouldn't have gotten Wemby because we would have a better record tho
kevin tran is the only oriental with real spurs info........
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