seems reasonable.. i mostly expect him to be in lineups with wesley or malaki where they cover each others flaws, at least until the all star weekend.
Dillingham, and not close. Nunez is a point guard who (sigh) can’t shoot, and isn’t athletic enough to be a good defender, and may or may not even come to the states this year or maybe ever
If Dillingham didn’t pan out as a starter he had a long career ahead of him as a bench microwave scorer/creator
Yes NO has a great team.
Man, if we give Castle this treatment (which is how we used to treat rookies when we were actually good), then really wtf is this team doing? It wouldn't surprise me if Pop did this, it would just be incredibly stupid of him.
Well you all wanted trades so now you got to deal with it LOL Also, you know Pop loves his old Vets he will be given plenty of playing time at others players expense
not sure what nba have you been watching, but unless a team has nobody on the spot, they really need to impress to start... i mean, how many rookie starters do you remember from last year?
Could we stick to one CP3 thread?
Not sure if you've noticed, but our team sucks ass. If Castle is backing up Champagnie for any amount of time, boy have we lost the plot.
This is the official CP3 thread from here to eternityCould we stick to one CP3 thread?
This. Again, Dilly haters around here severely underrating the guy. He’s a walking bucket who will contribute early. Seriously comparing him to Nunez is comical tbh.
I could easily see Dilly going down as the best player in the draft.
Castle is starting and CP3 is coming off the bench. We don’t draft a kid #4 and not start him. Plus you don’t sign CP3 to teach the kid how to play PG and then not play him PG. makes no sense
cool, then let me copy/past that...
Interesting observation from a journalist on the domino effect that lead Paul to SA...
I wonder if PATFO just jump on the opportunity or had this option in mind for a while.
Couldn’t Vassell start at 3, with Paul and Castle in the backcourt? With the assumption that Castle will be the PG of the future
.... right... castle on the ground of his 11 ppg and 2.5 ast in college clearly is a plug and play guy..
Now do Jeremy Sochan
Castles not a proven PG anyways, start him at the 2 and give him some ball-handling responsibilities while letting Paul run the show and let him learn
Paul/Castle/Vassell/Sochan/Wemby
Tre/Branham/Johnson/Mamu/Collins
The Spurs could do that but they won’t. If anything they would move Castle to SF over Vassell. But Castle is here to play PG. we have a guy here who is brought in to teach Castle how to play PG. Playing Castle another position is a waste of time and does nothing to develop him. I had hoped we wouldve learned our lesson with Sochan. CP3 might close over Castle in the 4th ala Manu. But he isn’t starting over him
We literally have nobody on the spot.
The only way to learn how play PG is to actually play PG. And Castle was a PG in high school. He just gave it up for one year in college. The longer we keep him away from the position he is supposed to play the worse it is for him in development. SG and PG are two way different positions and responsibilities. Castle needs to go through the fire, lean on Chris Paul for advice, watch CP3 up close and personal, and then try his best to mimic what he is learning
Tre should be traded.
CP3/Devin/Castle as starters, stagger CP3 and Castle so one of them is always on the floor.
If both play 30mpg, they would start and close out games together, with Castle having ~18mpg as the primary ballhandler.
Which he can do from playing the 2.
He can watch Chris Paul in practice all he wants, it's not the same as the game. My opinion is to let his play alongside Paul and see how things actually look in action, then slowly taper responsibilities from Paul to Castle.
I'm sorry, but throwing an untested rookie who is not a PG into the starting lineup from day 1 and expecting them to run a team is not a good way to develop them. We saw how the whole Sochan experiment blew up in Pop's face.
Last edited by Dex; 07-01-2024 at 02:37 PM.
1. Sochan had never (and I mean never) played PG in his life. Also Pop did Sochan a disservice anyways by not bringing in a veteran back up PG to teach Sochan. But Castle dribbles way better than Sochan. He’s much faster than Sochan and he is a much better passer than Sochan. The Sochan experiment was a half baked idea that the franchise themselves didn’t go all in on. That was Pop’s ego thinking he could do anything
2. Castle has played PG before. He played it on high school. He is only one year removed from playing PG and the longer you don’t do something the harder it is to remember how to do it. This isn’t a bicycle. You don’t just hop on and remember. Castle has to practice as a PG. He has to play as a PG in games. He needs all the reps as a PG. He doesn’t need any reps of anything else bc he won’t be playing any other position and shouldn’t be playing any other position.
3. Spurstalk has this weird thing where they think that positionless basketball is a real thing. And it isn’t. You still need a ing PG. The PG position is waaaaay different than the SG position. They share none of the same responsibilities at all. They are in different places on defense, the SG has way less a role on the offense. You’re basically saying Castle will learn how to play PG by being in Danny Green’s role or KCP or whomever. It doesn’t work that way at all. Castle needs to learn how to set up the tempo of the whole game. He needs to learn where his teammates like the ball. He needs to initiate the offense and run pic n rolls as the primary guard. He needs to learn when it’s ok to look for his shot and when he needs to slow things down and just run through Wemby. He will learn none of this as a SG
4. CP3 is washed. Spurstalk didn’t watch him play last year so they assume he can still start. But he can’t. The dude cannot get in the lane anymore. He can’t finish at the rim and he can’t really execute the offense anymore like he used to do. What he still has is about 25 minutes a game in him where he can use his smarts and vet experience to play pretty well. But he isn’t someone you want as a starter and he isn’t a player anymore that you want in front of your #4 pick in the draft who you know plenty of PGs have started when they are picked top 5.
Yeah, he's washed. Part of a long tradition of getting legends at the denouement of their career. Dominique. Moses. Et cetera.
I think he may be just as helpful on the bench yapping at players when they screw up like a coach.
The thing that's good about this is that it's so off the Spur's timeline that it's actually on it.
If CP3 was 25 that might be a problem, but at his age it's a non-issue -- by the time they get really good CP3 will be long gone.
This might be a trend for the Spurs signing established free agents.
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