2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[Spurs9]

kevin tran is the only oriental with real spurs info........

We may need to check with our real insider tspense

[LeBowen]

Lauri has also never played in a finals, like Bridges did, and doesn't fit into a nice little box, 3 and D wing, like Bridges does.

I'm sure the Knicks could have gotten Lauri with what they paid to get Bridges. But they didn't.

Not sure about Lauri's "upside". He a few months younger than Bridges.

We've seen Bridges as the first option.
After a hot streak early on after KD trade, he just had a 19.6/4.5/3.6 on 44/37/81 season.
He's a great defender, but I'd argue that he's a third best offensive option at best.

Meanwhile Lauri's averages in 121 game with the Jazz are 24.5/8.4/2 on 49/39/88 with just 1.4 turnovers.
He's in a completely different tier offensively compared to Bridges.
And he's not a bad defender. Average, but not bad.

Not many teams have two great frontcourt players. He's more than capable of handling opposition's second best frontcourt player.

[Mugen]

All Star caliber players are gonna cost a ton. You're not getting a guy like Markannen on a discount tbh.

After seeing BWrong's draft history, not sure why Spurfan would even care about giving up draft picks.

[Ariel]

The more I think about it, the more I believe Spurs shouldn't go all in right now at the proposed prices. They absolutely had to put together a compe ive roster that made sense, at least a wing shooter is necessary for that but if they get one they'll go into this season better equiped than last. Spurs won't be contenders for another 2 years at least if you look at the whole picture, Boston and OKC are too far ahead, and so are Minnesota, Dallas and Denver. Unless there's a great deal in place (doubt it with Ainge involved) I say don't jump the gun, aim at play in this season and bet on Lauri or Donovan Mitc reaching free agency. If they don't, then next year you'll have the picks to do this kind of deal with a better understanding on where the Spurs sit after another year of development for the young core.

[scott]

The Spurs only compe or for Lauri are the Warriors? They can get him if they want him then.

Haven't caught up on all the comments yet, so maybe someone else mentioned this, but while there aren't many teams that make sense as a trade-partner to view Lauri as a long-term piece (as in, resign him)... I wonder if there are teams out there who would look to trade for him as a 1-year rental to go all in on a le run. He only makes $18MM this year. Someone like Orlando could make that work with picks and some young prospects that could appeal to Ainge like Black and Jett Howard. (I don't think ORL is ready for an all-in run... nor do I think Lauri is a great fit, but that's just an example)

[Mugen]

I could see Detroit trading for a guy like Markkanen as well. They've gotta try and be good at some point tbh.

[Spurs9]

You can't trust a dude with a chicks name

[BatManu20]

The Spurs can out-bid anyone for Markkanen. The question is whether they're willing to or not. As much as I'd love him, don't think I'm trading 5 FRP's + Keldon for him. It's just too much, especially for a guy you gotta pay next Summer. And Ainge won't part with him unless he's coming out on top of that deal.

[Knoxxx]

All Star caliber players are gonna cost a ton. You're not getting a guy like Markannen on a discount tbh.

After seeing BWrong's draft history, not sure why Spurfan would even care about giving up draft picks.

Jazz Get: CHI FRP, CHA FRP, 12 2RPs of assorted years, Collins, Branham, Wesley, 26 ATL Swap
Spurs Get: Markannen!

"Mark" it down!

[LeBowen]

The more I think about it, the more I believe Spurs shouldn't go all in right now at the proposed prices. They absolutely had to put together a compe ive roster that made sense, at least a wing shooter is necessary for that but if they get one they'll go into this season better equiped than last. Spurs won't be contenders for another 2 years at least if you look at the whole picture, Boston and OKC are too far ahead, and so are Minnesota, Dallas and Denver. Unless there's a great deal in place (doubt it with Ainge involved) I say don't jump the gun, aim at play in this season and bet on Lauri or Donovan Mitc reaching free agency. If they don't, then next year you'll have the picks to do this kind of deal with a better understanding on where the Spurs sit after another year of development for the young core.

It's not an all in.
Spurs can trade for Markkanen while still keeping all of their picks and all the swaps.

Projecting timelines is a pointless endeavor in today's league considering how quickly things change.
Denver looked like a dynasty in the making, a year later they look to be in cap with no options to improve their non-existant depth.
Minnesota will be over the second apron in a year with 8 players on the roster and zero tradeable picks.
Dallas also already blew their load on a guard duo and role players that have no versatility.

I wouldn't blow the load right away, but Markkanen fits Wemby. Both timeline and basketball wise.
Can't surround Wemby with a bunch of 20 year olds when most of them except for future all-time greats take years to develop.
Wemby will be in the MVP race from 25-26 season onwards, we got to give him something.

[Ariel]

Honestly, I might offer Kyle Anderson a 2 year deal, with the last year being team option, and get it over with. Smart vet that can help the core grow, doesn't cost you anything, and wouldn't hurt '25 free agency.

[Mugen]

Fathead or Batum would be a solid pickup. I'd probably go for Batum since he'd be more willing to take a big 1yr deal but either one would be a nice frontcourt piece.

[Spurs9]

So jazz will want a ton of picks for a guy we will have to overpay in a year. They would be giving up picks, when we could have just used our 8th pick or even traded down to punt on another rookie on a cheaper contract. But we wanted those 2 picks in 7 years. For the fact Ainge is involved, it would be a big nope for me. Hes going to fleece Brian.

[scott]

If we trade for Lauri, I will take back (almost) all of my criticisms and rejoin the Church of Sniffism

[Knoxxx]

It's not an all in.
Spurs can trade for Markkanen while still keeping all of their picks and all the swaps.

Projecting timelines is a pointless endeavor in today's league considering how quickly things change.
Denver looked like a dynasty in the making, a year later they look to be in cap with no options to improve their non-existant depth.
Minnesota will be over the second apron in a year with 8 players on the roster and zero tradeable picks.
Dallas also already blew their load on a guard duo and role players that have no versatility.

I wouldn't blow the load right away, but Markkanen fits Wemby. Both timeline and basketball wise.
Can't surround Wemby with a bunch of 20 year olds when most of them except for future all-time greats take years to develop.
Wemby will be in the MVP race from 25-26 season onwards, we got to give him something.

What you talking about Willis??! Do tell.

The issue here is we have too many picks and need to trade some away. It appears unlikely the Spurs want to bring in two first round pick rookies each season.

I could see us discussing something about Utah gets the worst of the ATL or SAS 2025 first round pick.

Markannen to Spurs seems PROBABLE, unless OKC sneaks into the mix. Who else has the draft capital to pull this off?

Now, Vassell to Utah could make sense. No reason to make Vassell untouchable, when you have an acquisition of this caliber in play.

[Pauleta14]

The Spurs would be trading for Mark without an extension in place due to the extend-and-trade restrictions. After that, they can do whatever. I'd consider a likely Spurs package to be Jones, Sochan and maybe Branham along with CHI25, ATL25, ATL 27 and MIN31. Then the Spurs waive Graham, give the cap space to Mark, use Bird rights for Mamu and the room exception in Osman.

Paul, Wesley, Nunez
Vassell, Champagnie
Castle, Johnson, Cissoko
Markkanen, Osman, Mamukelashvili
Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

With one last roster spot open if Branham is included.

The bench would be awfull

And it's way too much

[DAF86]

The Spurs can out-bid anyone for Markkanen. The question is whether they're willing to or not. As much as I'd love him, don't think I'm trading 5 FRP's + Keldon for him. It's just too much, especially for a guy you gotta pay next Summer. And Ainge won't part with him unless he's coming out on top of that deal.

Keeping Lauri and missing out on this next draft is the worst thing Ainge could do.

[LeBowen]

What you talking about Willis??! Do tell.

I mean as in we could probably get Markkanen for Hawks, Bulls and Minnesota FRPs and still have all of our own picks and those swaps.

[Degoat]

Not that it ultimately matters but it could be somewhat strategic of the jazz to trade him to the spurs because it eliminates one less team from being in on tanking next year lol I mean as it stands it looks like the SA and Det should be trying to win with their moves.

[Mugen]

I'd probably do something like the following for Markkanen:

Keldon + 2025 ATL or Spurs pick (top 5 protected) + Spurs 2027 Pick + Spurs 2029 Pick + best 2030 swap

[DAF86]

Honestly, I might offer Kyle Anderson a 2 year deal, with the last year being team option, and get it over with. Smart vet that can help the core grow, doesn't cost you anything, and wouldn't hurt '25 free agency.

I love Fathead but we desperately need some shooting.

[Degoat]

NBA central Twitter posted that it looks like Gary Trent Jr won’t get MLE anywhere, I’m shocked nobody has signed him

[CitizenDwayne]

I don’t see how Kyle Anderson helps this team.

[RC_Drunkford]

imagine we trade for Lauri and then bring in Brook Lopez one can dream

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs would be trading for Mark without an extension in place due to the extend-and-trade restrictions. After that, they can do whatever. I'd consider a likely Spurs package to be Jones, Sochan and maybe Branham along with CHI25, ATL25, ATL 27 and MIN31. Then the Spurs waive Graham, give the cap space to Mark, use Bird rights for Mamu and the room exception in Osman.

Paul, Wesley, Nunez
Vassell, Champagnie
Castle, Johnson, Cissoko
Markkanen, Osman, Mamukelashvili
Wembanyama, Collins, Bassey

With one last roster spot open if Branham is included.

Holy put down the drugs.