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    People like to site the Siakam deal for the three first rounders as the price but as noted in other threads Lauri is almost exactly three years younger than Siakam and that should warrant one more pick.

    Also the 2026 Atlanta pick could carry the weight of two picks since its in the near future and has a good chance at being a good pick.

    Maybe 2026 ATL pick which counts as two picks as for reason already stated, most favorable of the 2030 swaps and the 2031 Minny pick.
    Lauri should cost much less than Siakam as Spurs not in rush to get better and has cap space to sign Lauri straight up next off season and Lauri and Utah know that

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    Don't offer much, let desperate Warriors trade for him and just sign Lauri straight up next summer, he obviously will choose Spurs over re signing with them...

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    Lauri should cost much less than Siakam as Spurs not in rush to get better and has cap space to sign Lauri straight up next off season and Lauri and Utah know that
    Sounds like Lauri is getting dealt and presumably any team that gets him will have a verbal agreement in place for a deal next summer. Either the Spurs get him now or probably never.

    First Trae Young wasn't worth it and now Lauri isn't worth it. By this years trade deadline another young star will be probably be available and they wont be worth it either.

    The Spurs aren't getting Luka/Giannis and those leftover fantasies are a big reason why people are so stingy about other star players.

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    Lauri should cost much less than Siakam as Spurs not in rush to get better and has cap space to sign Lauri straight up next off season and Lauri and Utah know that
    You got it! But we have to overbid just in case. Lauri is someone you have to get. PLus, we have so many FRPs anyway. Utah is just lucky.

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    In order for one to predict the future, one can look to the past.

    Tell me, which players have been seen as great opportunities in the last 5-10 years for a team to trade for? Anthony Davis might be the only one but he only wanted to go to LA.
    Not great, but very good cost effective trades that affected contenders the past couple of years include Aaron Gordon, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday to Boston, Kristaps Portzingis to Boston, Kyrie Irving to Dallas, Siakam,
    I'd say the evidence for big trades significantly favors the selling team. Rarely do you see a big trade that truly reaps great rewards, exceptions might be Jrue to Milwaukee and, perhaps, Anthony Davis to Lakers. But most end up very bad (Durant to Phoenix, Harden to Nets, PG13 to Clippers, Lillard to Milwaukee, Vucevic to Chicago, Westbrook to Lakers, etc). Can go both ways, but usually the buyers convince themselves everything will go perfect to justify the price, and that's rarely the case.

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    I have to say, I like The Finn better than SpursTalk's usual obsessions with bad expensive players. But talk about throwing all these picks and players at him is wild. You realize he's on an expiring, right? And doesn't have much of a market? If you're so very much in love, just wait until next year and sign him outright. Sheesh, giving up unprotected picks next year. Totally insane.

    Give up the Atlanta 27, Chicago pick, and a couple of your own in 28 and 30. Throw In Keldon or Collins to match salaries

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    lots of compe ion...


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    CP3/Castle/Vassell/Lauri/Wemby with Tre, Keldon (or filler), Julian, Wesley and Lopez (or I guess, even Collins or filler) competes for the WC in its first year. They are likely 2nd round fodder with a limited ceiling in reality, but they would definitely add at least 30 wins (52 win season minimum) - calling it.

    This assumes CP3 and Lauri play a minimum of 60 games each, respectively. The only questions holding the Spurs back would be 1) can Lauri play 60-65 games a year, including 95% of playoff games, to truly earn a max salary and 2) is Lauri a good enough defender to avoid being worse than neutral come playoff time, especially at the end of his max deal and into his next contract? I'd roll on the dice on both. Wemby isn't going anywhere if we earn his loyalty by making the Spurs a legit playoff team and Finals dark horse in his second year and putting talent around him. We'll rebuild if Lauri drops off in 3-5 years, and maybe have a ring to show for it as well, which would obviously be worth.

    I say ing pull the trigger, even overpay slightly, if we have a verbal agreement with Lauri to stay.

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    Not great, but very good cost effective trades that affected contenders the past couple of years include Aaron Gordon, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday to Boston, Kristaps Portzingis to Boston, Kyrie Irving to Dallas, Siakam,
    I'd say the evidence for big trades significantly favors the selling team. Rarely do you see a big trade that truly reaps great rewards, exceptions might be Jrue to Milwaukee and, perhaps, Anthony Davis to Lakers. But most end up very bad (Durant to Phoenix, Harden to Nets, PG13 to Clippers, Lillard to Milwaukee, Vucevic to Chicago, etc). Can go both ways, but usually the buyers convince themselves everything will go perfect to justify the price, and that's rarely the case.
    Yeah so Lauri is definitely in the same stratosphere as those first group of guys you listed: Gordon, White, etc.

    To me, it doesn’t matter who wins the trade but moreso if either team benefits. A team searching for its #2 has to find it somehow and the players you listed shows there’s no sense in waiting for the “next opportunity” to pop up (as Uriel suggested) since there is rarely the perfect player that becomes available.

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    Not sure he's worth the price he'll cost now that so many teams want him.

    Not with Ainge

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    lots of compe ion...

    Yeah, Spurs don’t need to play that foolish game. Stay away.

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    Minnesota has no picks, what do they offer that Utah wants? Naz Reid? They're not going to move Jaden McDaniels.
    As for Sacramento, again, what do they offer? Keegan Murray, Devin Carter and underwhelming picks? DeAaron Fox isn't going anywhere.
    Honestly this feels more like Ainge trying to build momentum. Don't bite, be smart like Leon Rose.

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    lots of compe ion...


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    Yeah, Spurs don’t need to play that foolish game. Stay away.
    This is why that Dilly trade was so ing stupid. Do you think that there isn't going to be compe ion for a major piece requiring draft assets? Multiple teams making offers is the name of the game.

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    Minnesota has no picks, what do they offer that Utah wants? Naz Reid? They're not going to move Jaden McDaniels.
    As for Sacramento, again, what do they offer? Keegan Murray, Devin Carter and underwhelming picks? DeAaron Fox isn't going anywhere.
    Honestly this feels more like Ainge trying to build momentum. Don't bite, be smart like Leon Rose.
    I wonder is MIN is stealth shopping KAT. That would be an interesting swap.

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    The Wolves have nothing to offer. Sacramento maybe? This is ours. Let’s go, Brian.

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    This is why that Dilly trade was so ing stupid. Do you think that there isn't going to be compe ion for a major piece requiring draft assets? Multiple teams making offers is the name of the game.
    Yeah, I don’t think it’s the asset thing. I just don’t want Lauri.

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    No thanks. I don't think he's the guy I'd be willing to go all-in on.

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    Lol:

    Deandre Ayton
    Trae Young
    John Collins
    Ben Simmons
    Tobias Harris

    These are THE players this forum has WORSHIPPED over the years, DEMANDING this FO sign them, or give up huge piles to get them. Don't you think that's pretty ed up? Like... don't you think, maybe, maybe, maybe your desperation to get Lauri Markkanen is following the same chain?

    That aside, just, if you need to pay huge money to a somewhat fit, go play EA Sports. It's wild how desperate you guys are to spend obscenely. If we can get him for what he's worth on an expiring - a couple picks at most - then fine. This about running up the tab is ridiculous.

    But I think y'all just need to entertain yourself with this stuff. Being serious isn't part of the game.
    Dude 4 unprotected picks. A couple pick swaps, Sohan, Branham, Wesley. That’s nothing to give up for the Finnish Finisher!

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    I wonder is MIN is stealth shopping KAT. That would be an interesting swap.
    KAT would be seen as a negative by Utah, that's why I didn't even bring him up. They're trying to go younger, not older and expensive.

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    TBH the Front Office probably isn't even working on this. The reports that we are interested is probably just speculation based on the fact that all the pieces are there and this is the most perfect fit imaginable that any dunce can imagine it.

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    Next thing you know, Minnesota lands Markkanen for a package centered around Dillingham... and I'll be rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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    The Wolves have nothing to offer. Sacramento maybe? This is ours. Let’s go, Brian.
    Exactly.
    Idk why fans get so caught up in these X team wants Y playe reports.
    No , every team would want Markkanen for a reasonable price.

    McDaniels is a clearly inferior player, Timberwolves have nothing else to offer.
    Ainge already bent them over once, it's our turn.

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    wolves entered trade talks forgetting that they dont have their 2031 pick

    either that or theyre moving off towns

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    We do not expect Lauri Markkanen to be traded, but that has not stopped multiple teams — including Golden State — from calling Utah, sources said. And the Jazz have held tangible discussions on the All-Star forward.

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