Top 3 perimeter iso defender and top 3 matchup difficulty. 94 percentile in DEPM post PG experiment good for top 20 in the league. Held guards to 42% FG. Last 15 games held opponent to 5% below their avg FG % good for 7th in the league. How is this laughable?
I guess you mean one can't draw conclusions after year 2, because of course you can evaluate, he'd be a Junior in College and should be able to show a lot more a this stage having worked in a NBA environment and the privilege of being given a starting spot (even better to learn/get better)
We're all hoping for the "jump" you're talking about but it's a fact that he's vastly disapointed until now.
(and again the PG experiment ended the 1st week of december, not half way into the season)
players always struggle in their 2nd year, that's pretty common. History says year 3 and 5 is where the biggest improvements are occuring. Ok 18 games and after that it took another 10 or so til Tre Jones started. Then it took another 30 for Pop to find out the right defensive schemes. The coaching didn't help anybody last season.
I don't understand what's so disappointing? He's better than Dyson Daniels, Johnny Davis, Ousmane Dieng and Ochai Agbaji who were drafted right before or after him. Mark Williams and Shaedon Sharpe can barely get on the floor. His production is better than Tari Eason's and not much worse than Jalen Duren's. Did you expect him to be an All-Star in year 2?
The only guy drafted after Sochan who's clearly better is Jalen Williams
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By disapointed I wasn't referring to his draft class but as a starter for an NBA team in his 2nd season. I think he should've been challended more but with PATFO's strategy didn't have vets to look up or compe ion to make him better.
I discovered him thing season and was expecting something spceial bc of Pop's words and the fans opinions on social medias, so maybe it's bc I missed his best side from his rookie year, but aside some (occasional) defensive prowesses I've been stunned by the limitations he's shown in almost every area of the game. His 3pts % is far from being my main concern for ex.
I know you think I'm a hater but I genuinely hope you're right and he shuts everybody's mouth next season, we're all in the same boat
If you only watch his tictok lowlights posted by people looking for clickbait you’d think he is a rando playing in an nba game, but yet he isn’t. But some people are still stupid enough to use these tictok videos as a gauge of some sort and not realize people can make any player look like the next Michael jordan or the next Anthony Bennett with video editing.
Sochan showed SGA who was boss 1 v 1 their last meeting.
I don't know if I'd say any of the picks from that year have vastly disappointed. They haven't achieved their full potential but none of them is a complete bust. None of these players were locks. Sochan is gonna be an NBA players for a long time. The other two IDK but they're also late firsts.
I mean the playmaking part was always overrated with him. I don't see any playmaking chops at all. But he did improve his shot and had some games where he got 10+ boards, it's just inconsistent which has to be expected from young players. This season though the jury is out, he has to show major improvement otherwise he's a bench player.
Look, in the end I still believe in him long term, he has really special defensive profile and instinct that are worth the time and patience even if it does nowhere in the end.
I also think the absence of veterans and playmakers/PG impacted him on and off the court even more than it did Vic and Devin (who were greatly handicaped as a well)
(I probably should've started with that lol...)
However, I firmly believe in the effect of merit being the main factor for playing time. The fault in prob AGAIN on PATFO and their stupid roster built, but Sochan had imo a bad introduction of the NBA life by being too "protected" and "excused" for whatever stupid decisions he made. He knew he'd start anyway even if he sucked. At some point I think it's didn't help him.
I dislike his body language and lack of concern for the mistakes he makes, his "laid back" at ude in a compe ive environement is just weird (and maybe bc of his age but also Pop's coaching, I'm not sure tbh).
I hope the step the Spurs are making this season changes him, I want him focused,angry and willing to shut ppl's mouth (he's on social medias and 100% aware of the criticism).
Enough of the entertaining troll, I can't help but think it's linked to his productions.
I hope PATFO brings another vet and /or compe ion for him, he needs it more than anyone else in the roster.
Spurs new shooting coach doing work. Where is Chip?
I sure hope these are focus reps and not game speed. His right hand is not directly under the ball either. We probably just have to resign ourselves to hoping that he can make this form work rather than adopting a more traditional one.
I don't know how ing hard it is to shoot in all one motion.
Yikes it doesn’t look much better at all
It doesn’t look pretty but all that matters is the ball going through the net
Didn’t know that watching somebody shoot a basketball could cause physical pain until right now when I saw Sochans new shot.
I don’t want to hear about him becoming a good shooter in the future. Also this (unfairly?) makes me feel like the Castle pick was a waste
Not sure why but looks like he always puts the ball close to the middle of his body first and then over his right eye causing an awkward start to his shot. Once he gets it over his right eye it looks passable. Not sure why he needs so long to get it on top of his right eye.
I thought the video was buffering -- but it was just Sochan's worsening hitch
It's very difficult to see the ball coming off his hand in those clips, but it still looks like it's coming off with sidespin instead of backspin. I don't have any faith that he can make his shot work like that. It's one thing to adjust your footwork a little, or maybe move the release point. But when you make it come off your hand like a knuckleball, you've got next to no chance of it being consistent.
It's incredible to me that he shoots 78% from the line when he doesn't let his off hand interfere with the ball, and yet he's jacking up these practice shots with it nearly on top of the ball. How on god's green earth does a professional basketball player with parents who played the game have that jacked up of a shot? And why the haven't they already fixed it? This isn't like, "Hey, you need a shot guru like Chip Engelland to clean the finer points of this up." This is like, "Hey, on day 1 of YMCA ball, this is how you hold a basketball when you shoot it."
Watch him start draining threes this year
The only thing he's draining is his trade value.Watch him start draining threes this year
Not looking forward to his cap killing extension
If he doesn't rework his shot from the ground up he'll never be a decent enough shooter. The thing already starts wrong from the beginning.
the hitch is all over. even his feet/legs stop moving for a bit. so unnatural looking
I do have to say though, I’m really quite impressed that the Spurs would send their shooting coaches to Poland over the summer just so they can make sure Jeremy gets his reps. That’s an incredible amount of dedication.
You can already see 4/$80M coming and the ensuring spin job from the apologists/homers about how he's still young, it's not much more than the MLE in the new CBA and at worst it'll be valuable salary matching fodder . . . sounds nice, except for the fact that he's a replacement player.
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