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Dom Barlow.
I was agreeing with you that they kept their heads down and kept pushing to win.
Dom Barlow.
She's not one of them big ol women
Sounds like negotiating with Ainge for Markkanen
On the Brooks Lopez talk...
Upgrading Collins to Lopez only makes sense if we want to be good. Collins sucks ass, as does his contract, but it's not like his contract is preventing us from doing anything and it's not like we're trying to be a playoff team. It would be kind of silly to acquire Lopez (even if it's just for a Graham swap) and then have to pay to get off Collins unless we're doing something like acquiring Lauri and making a push for the playoffs.
Wishful thinking imo. I highly doubt the Spurs are having any real convos about Markkanen
"Rod Boone: Most roster movement: Source says #Hornets did not extend a qualifying offer to Amari Bailey, making him an unrestricted free agent."
Anyone want to sign Amari Bailey's mom?
Not what's being reported
going from zollins to lopez just to get out of the deal a year early has value as well. spurs paid a 1st to go from RJ to SJax for the same reason. also worked out the jax balled out for us the rest of that year even down to our game 6 loss to okc
I mean you're seeing reports about the Spurs in the Markannen hunt
If we do the Lauri deal, we should definitely do a Lopez deal. But if we miss on Lauri, and unless some other trade target manifests itself (I doubt it, as I kind of doubt we're really in on the Lauri talks), then no point to move off Collins now. Just soft tank it to next summer at that point.
Is it though? Ive seen Windy report he "thinks" the Spurs are inquiring and I've seen Lowe opine that he would be a good fit in SA but haven't seen any actual reports that SA has had any real talks about it.
"Yo Ainge."
"Yo Brian."
"Wazzup."
"Wazzup. How much for that Finnish guy?"
"Let me check my sheet. Four unprotecteds and two or three good young players."
"Lol, k."
"Lol."
"See ya on the links later this summer."
"See ya."
Knowing Ainge he asked for 5 FRPs and Wemby
Everything I've read is nothing but speculation that "Spurs could be interested", "it would make sense", "league sources believe", and so on and so forth. Nothing concrete leading to Spurs making an actual offer or even having talks. I would not be surprised at all if indeed Spurs had some sort of preliminary conversations about Markkanen with Utah, but those 2 are not the same. What are those specific reports you refer to?
Ainge don't do it
There's never anything concrete when it comes to Spurs news.
I can get behind both building through the draft and trading for legit players, but what I can't get behind is punting a #8 pick 7 years down the road and then not trading for anyone.
If they moved it a year or two it would be fine, but since they moved it so far away, I want Wemby to have a functional team around him.
Considering how deprived of talent this roster is and how long it takes for young players to develop unless they're generational talent, not trading for anyone just doesn't make sense.
If we don't have a legit forward next to Wemby on the opening night, whether it be Markkanen or someone else, this off-season will be a failure in my eyes.
Personally my offer today (that is, his contract being expiring and requiring him to be a free agent if Spurs trade for him) would probably be:
Keldon / Zach Collins
+ Sochan (I have to assume they value him as a lottery pick, otherwise you don't trade him)
+ Chicago '25
+ Spurs '29 pick unprotected
+ Charlotte '25
+ a few 2nds
I'd be willing to add perhaps one more first rounder, but NOT any pick in the next 2 drafts ('25/'26), probably Spurs '27 top 4 protected or something like that. If Utah wants more, then have them extend him, hurt their tank, and get the same offer whenever he becomes trade available again.
People just throwing out spurs name just trying to get there clients more leverage
That's not true, they're more reserved than your typical franchise, absolutely, but there were lots of news coming out in the Dejounte and Poeltl trade, for instance. If you read between the lines (wording is telling), those seemed a lot more concrete than what you see now regarding Markkanen. Again, doesn't prove it won't happen, but I don't get the sense anything is imminent.
You don't trade just for trading's sake. Spurs aren't contending in the next 2 years Markkanen or not. If there's a deal that makes sense, great. Otherwise I'd rather wait, desperate teams get ripped off every time, especially when Ainge is involved. That's the worst case scenario.
PS: If you go through the draft thread, you'll clearly see I wasn't exactly a fan of moving #8 6/7 years into the future.
Last edited by Ariel; 07-02-2024 at 04:12 PM.
who ever gave collins that contract needs to be fired.
If we're to try and find logic in this potential trade, Minnesota picks just make too much sense.
Spurs somewhat unexplainably kick a mid-lottery pick 7 years down the road.
Jazz owns Minnesota starting next year, having those two picks would just be the final nail in Minnesota's coffin if things go South.
Chicago, Charlotte, Minnesota picks and one Spurs pick that's '27 or later.
If they want Jeremy and Keldon, that is.
Chicago would be a gamble to convey, Charlotte is SRPs.
Minnesota is potentially more valuable to Jazz than other teams.
Spurs '27 shouldn't be in the lottery.
While Knicks did give up five FRPs, none of those will be in the lottery if they avoid a major meltdown.
Crap that's what I was thinking of, you're right.
Why would you expect Utah to value Sochan as a lottery pick? He's got some real defensive potential but is super inconsistent and a below replacement level player. That's a pretty lousy trade package for them that Golden State will likely trounce in their offer. Ainge isn't stupid, he knows the Charlotte 25 is two seconds. That's not a serious trade offer.
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