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    Calling it first. Spurs get the 11th pick from Chicago and trade for future 1st round pick in 2050.

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    I wouldn’t mind if it rolled over to 2026.
    Same— would give spurs 2 FRPs in each of the next 3 years. Then the swap after that.

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    This is so encouraging. If it conveys next year or the year after, we might be able to get a 2050 SRP by BlackWrong
    Calling it first. Spurs get the 11th pick from Chicago and trade for future 1st round pick in 2050.
    Not even original griping. Do you people even read the threads, or just post?

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    Vuc average 18/10 last season while making a reasonable 20M. He has positive value or neutral value worst case. LaVine has roughly 135M left on his deal. Bulls will have to eat that like the Nets with Ben Simmons. We could absorb the last season of Lonzo Ball and make it the pick unprotected but Chicago says no.
    The Ball idea is good. I do not not think anyone around the league would assign positive value to Vooch. He's a washed player.

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    The Ball idea is good. I do not not think anyone around the league would assign positive value to Vooch. He's a washed player.
    His counting stats and advanced stats are still solid. Not sure where you're getting the washed idea from. He's declining but still effective. His value is neutral at worst at 20M per season.

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    Welp. Demar is walking

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    So this pick becomes less protected, 1-8 in both 26 and 27. I guess CHI could be burning it down to below that level, though.

    DeRozan is good for regular season wins (only), but given he is long in tooth we hope for a net gain on his departure. Can CHI get any compensation for Demarr, a S&T or anything?

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    Word is DDR has interest in Miami, who cannot yet offer more than about $5.2, so Heat would have to clear some space. Duncan Robinson, you are a Spur!

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    Word is DDR has interest in Miami, who cannot yet offer more than about $5.2, so Heat would have to clear some space. Duncan Robinson, you are a Spur!
    or we can finally do the Herro thing

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    Word is DDR has interest in Miami, who cannot yet offer more than about $5.2, so Heat would have to clear some space. Duncan Robinson, you are a Spur!
    Lol, was just thinking about this. The framework of this trade work (just saying):

    MIA: DDR (~20M per via S&T)
    CHI: Keldon
    SAS: Robinson; Jovic

    Gives the Laui-stans and cheaper facsimile in Jovic. Robinson has 2 years left, with an expiring that seems flippable next season. Obviously Spurs would still need to be enticed with some other assets too.

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    Welp. Demar is walking
    As long as he doesn't walk to south Texas.

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    Lol, was just thinking about this. The framework of this trade work (just saying):

    MIA: DDR (~20M per via S&T)
    CHI: Keldon
    SAS: Robinson; Jovic

    Gives the Laui-stans and cheaper facsimile in Jovic. Robinson has 2 years left, with an expiring that seems flippable next season. Obviously Spurs would still need to be enticed with some other assets too.
    I think the Spurs can just absorb DR, not sure how that helps with this though.

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    Very concerned about this pick (and not to pat myself on the back, but I called this a year ago) but fully agree with exstatic that it would be best if this pick magically conveyed in the 9-12 range in 2026.

    Have a real hard time imagining the Spurs wanting to take 3 players next year, so if this conveyed next year it would likely just force us to take a subpar return in trading it away, as teams will know that 1) we need to move it and 2) we're happy with subpar returns on picks

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    As long as he doesn't walk to south Texas.

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    Even if the Bulls tank, the Spurs have their second round pick -- so a selection in the early 30s isn't a bad consolation prize. In fact, best case might be get 31-33 in 2025 and then 9-12 in 2026.

    Bulls ownership basically just cares about being good enough to lead the league in attendance (which they have for three straight seasons). I doubt ownership is down to totally bottom out for three years and hurt attendance. Chicago can attract players so they should be back to mediocre soon.

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    Front office salivating over getting another high SRP to sell.

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    Front office salivating over getting another high SRP to sell.
    I wonder how many pennies the Spurs made trading back one spot in the second round. Like $500?

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    Even if the Bulls tank, the Spurs have their second round pick -- so a selection in the early 30s isn't a bad consolation prize. In fact, best case might be get 31-33 in 2025 and then 9-12 in 2026.

    Bulls ownership basically just cares about being good enough to lead the league in attendance (which they have for three straight seasons). I doubt ownership is down to totally bottom out for three years and hurt attendance. Chicago can attract players so they should be back to mediocre soon.
    last 2 times we had picks in the 30s, we traded one to minnesota for 2 bad future seconds, and we used the other one to move back a spot and draft Nunez

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    If DeMar DeRozan leaves, there’s quietly a growing belief around the league that Chicago could look to move center Nikola Vucevic and lean further into a youth movement and roster retooling, league sources told HoopsHype.
    – via HoopsHype

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    What's funny is Chicago might accidentally get better during their "rebuild" because the Bulls have actually be been with lineups that don't feature DeRozan, LaVine and Vucevic. Those three just don't really impact winning any longer. Lonzo Ball is probably the most impactful player on their whole team. With Caruso gone, Coby White might be next.

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    What's funny is Chicago might accidentally get better during their "rebuild" because the Bulls have actually be been with lineups that don't feature DeRozan, LaVine and Vucevic. Those three just don't really impact winning any longer. Lonzo Ball is probably the most impactful player on their whole team. With Caruso gone, Coby White might be next.
    Next to be traded, or to step up?

    Chicago is picking a direction, finally. Or maybe DDR leaving is forcing it. Overall a good thing for us, most probably, since we don't need the pick next year, they can tank and get someone good, and we get two more years of 1-8/1-8 protections.

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    What's funny is Chicago might accidentally get better during their "rebuild" because the Bulls have actually be been with lineups that don't feature DeRozan, LaVine and Vucevic. Those three just don't really impact winning any longer. Lonzo Ball is probably the most impactful player on their whole team. With Caruso gone, Coby White might be next.
    With so many terrible teams in the East, the Bulls will have a very easy schedule too, even if they are one of the terrible teams.

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    This is so encouraging. If it conveys next year or the year after, we might be able to get a 2050 SRP by BlackWrong
    or maybe white RC or caucasian Pop can sell it for cash.

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    What's funny is Chicago might accidentally get better during their "rebuild" because the Bulls have actually be been with lineups that don't feature DeRozan, LaVine and Vucevic. Those three just don't really impact winning any longer. Lonzo Ball is probably the most impactful player on their whole team. With Caruso gone, Coby White might be next.
    And don’t count out a LaVine “prove the haters wrong” stretch.

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    Bulls signed Primo to an Exhibit 10 deal. Nice pairing with Giddey

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