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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    You deserve to get fired. You deserve to watch him leave town. You deserve to watch the Las Vegas Spurs open their new arena.

    He's a top three player this year. Get him whatever help he needs to get to the tournament. Spend assets.

    Bad FO decisions, bad personnel or roster decisions, tolerating bad play, bad defense, low effort. Needs to be gone.

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    what uganda do about it? Joseph Kony's Avatar
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    Mr. Body: You obviously hate this franchise, go be a Thunder fan

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    OP is not wrong.

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    You are 100% right. He’s all that was promised and more.

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    LeBowen said basically the same thing before I did in the other thread. After seeing Vic's improvement over the summer, it's just a sin to waste any opportunity.

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    OP might be slight hyperbole but ultimately I’m starting to pretty much think like this. I don’t think it’s farfetched that Wemby is a top 5-10 guy in the league as a sop re. The idea that we need to draw out the rebuild and go slow for 3 years is foolish.

    I’ll be patient one more year. We could be contending by 2025-2026 if PATFO makes the right moves though tbh.

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    Nah, you don't go all in. People are confusing his talent and potential with actually being ready to carry a team to a le. However, you don't play for the draft at this point. You play for a playoff spot and not worry about how many distant pick swaps you can fit on the head of a pin.

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    Nah, you don't go all in. People are confusing his talent and potential with actually being ready to carry a team to a le. However, you don't play for the draft at this point. You play for a playoff spot and not worry about how many distant pick swaps you can fit on the head of a pin.
    I agree that he needs to start learning how to climb the mountain. People forget that it takes numerous playoff reps to actually be a contender. All of which makes trading the 8th pick all the more inexcusable. We need talent now to start that climb; not in 2031.

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    Nah, you don't go all in. People are confusing his talent and potential with actually being ready to carry a team to a le. However, you don't play for the draft at this point. You play for a playoff spot and not worry about how many distant pick swaps you can fit on the head of a pin.
    Wemby is ready to carry a team to MULTIPLE les...you need to check your eyesight

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    Anyone seeing what Wemby is doing with Gobert as his twin tower running mate? Point Wemby with Lauri’s finishing skills would be special. Spurs can’t waste half of his rookie deal on tryout seasons.

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    Right, which is why the worst decision in the world is to be impulsive and throw money and resources around. Thank God the franchise has an incredible idea of the future. Want to see what happens when you make bad decisions with money and resources? Denver. Milwaukee. Those championship windows are pretty much closed.

    So, settle down. We're going to be okay.

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    Nah, you don't go all in. People are confusing his talent and potential with actually being ready to carry a team to a le. However, you don't play for the draft at this point. You play for a playoff spot and not worry about how many distant pick swaps you can fit on the head of a pin.
    But noone is asking for them to go all in.

    Not counting that fake FRP from Charlotte, we have 12 FRPs up until 20131.
    With four more swaps.
    And 20 FRPs, including 5 FRPs in '26 for example. Can easily trade up.

    Trading away four picks wouldn't mean we blew the load.
    We'll never trade for an MVP level player and everyone else would still be obtainable if the opportunity presents itself.

    Wemby is going to be the best player in the league in two years at the most.
    Devin has established himself as a solid third option on an amazing deal considering the cap inflation.
    We just got a #4 pick who looks to be the type of two-way player every championship team has.
    We'd still have at least one '25 pick and good cap situation even if we get Markkanen.

    Everyone will be lining up to play Wemby and we'll have an easy time getting good role players in FA.
    Or getting high end role players with those 8 leftover FRPs.

    It just makes too much sense to me.

    Entering the season without any major wing reinforcements after puting a #8 pick 7 years down the road would be infuriating, because it's more or less a guarantee that some of those wings picked in mid-late lottery will become a good starter at the very least.

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    Anyone seeing what Wemby is doing with Gobert as his twin tower running mate? Point Wemby with Lauri’s finishing skills would be special. Spurs can’t waste half of his rookie deal on tryout seasons.
    Lauri is Gobert now, despite Lauri being soft as baby and nowhere close to the player Gobert is on defense. Settle down.

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    Lauri is Gobert now, despite Lauri being soft as baby and nowhere close to the player Gobert is on defense. Settle down.
    Giving away Dillingham for no reason was a monumental blunder - but you are completely ok with it - because you are used to losing and it fits your personality

    Wemby is here now and is ready and if year after year and tank after tank wasnt tiring for you - then you can keep praising these incompetent fools

    the rest of us want to win now and hate to see wembys seasons go to waste.

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    Anyone seeing what Wemby is doing with Gobert as his twin tower running mate? Point Wemby with Lauri’s finishing skills would be special. Spurs can’t waste half of his rookie deal on tryout seasons.
    They played 5 minutes together today. Wemby really exploded in the 15 minutes he didn't have Gobbert taking up his space in the paint.

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    Right, which is why the worst decision in the world is to be impulsive and throw money and resources around. Thank God the franchise has an incredible idea of the future. Want to see what happens when you make bad decisions with money and resources? Denver. Milwaukee. Those championship windows are pretty much closed.

    So, settle down. We're going to be okay.
    I mean, no. Those championship windows got closed because of a new CBA that was imposed after they built their teams. DEN/MIN's builds were fantastic, if it weren't for the subsequent death-penalty imposed by the new CBA.

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    But noone is asking for them to go all in.

    Not counting that fake FRP from Charlotte, we have 12 FRPs up until 20131.
    With four more swaps.
    And 20 FRPs, including 5 FRPs in '26 for example. Can easily trade up.

    Trading away four picks wouldn't mean we blew the load.
    We'll never trade for an MVP level player and everyone else would still be obtainable if the opportunity presents itself.

    Wemby is going to be the best player in the league in two years at the most.
    Devin has established himself as a solid third option on an amazing deal considering the cap inflation.
    We just got a #4 pick who looks to be the type of two-way player every championship team has.
    We'd still have at least one '25 pick and good cap situation even if we get Markkanen.

    Everyone will be lining up to play Wemby and we'll have an easy time getting good role players in FA.
    Or getting high end role players with those 8 leftover FRPs.

    It just makes too much sense to me.

    Entering the season without any major wing reinforcements after puting a #8 pick 7 years down the road would be infuriating, because it's more or less a guarantee that some of those wings picked in mid-late lottery will become a good starter at the very least.
    Nice

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    Again, what is the 2025 plan? S/ATL's picks figure to be in the 10-14 range. The free-agent class is ass. Is the plan really to hope against hope that a disgruntled star who happens to fit into the team's designs and who's team would accept whatever package we put together becomes available? Sorry, but if the plan is to adopt what a dude who's drunk out of his mind does at the craps table at 2am as your team building strategy, you need to get fired.

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    We might just want to make sure, we are rather "wasting" a season now, than several come his peak.

    That said we are not "wasting" anything. The CP3 thing shows, that we are using time with not skipping any steps.

    I'm all with PATFO and it would be ugly to blow the big load now, just to sit with empty hands, once Wemby can decide to jump ship because we ran out of assets (like lebron did several times).

    We at least have to wait out the '25 Draft, before we can really say, what our team COULD look like. The hawks pick might become someone interesting and ...I'm even ok with a soft tank while teaching the youngsters.

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    But noone is asking for them to go all in.

    Not counting that fake FRP from Charlotte, we have 12 FRPs up until 20131.
    With four more swaps.
    And 20 FRPs, including 5 FRPs in '26 for example. Can easily trade up.

    Trading away four picks wouldn't mean we blew the load.
    We'll never trade for an MVP level player and everyone else would still be obtainable if the opportunity presents itself.

    Wemby is going to be the best player in the league in two years at the most.
    Devin has established himself as a solid third option on an amazing deal considering the cap inflation.
    We just got a #4 pick who looks to be the type of two-way player every championship team has.
    We'd still have at least one '25 pick and good cap situation even if we get Markkanen.

    Everyone will be lining up to play Wemby and we'll have an easy time getting good role players in FA.
    Or getting high end role players with those 8 leftover FRPs.

    It just makes too much sense to me.

    Entering the season without any major wing reinforcements after puting a #8 pick 7 years down the road would be infuriating, because it's more or less a guarantee that some of those wings picked in mid-late lottery will become a good starter at the very least.
    I love how this typo has become a thing.

    It depends on the four picks,

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    Body acts like making any move is going to use literally every asset the franchise has : Denver's window isn't closed. Neither is Milwaukee. there are plenty of trades they could orchestrate to improve a little bit and even without them they're still contenders next season. and unlike those teams that are capped out with 3 max salaries right now, the Spurs own a number of other teams picks to trade and don't have any particularly bad contracts on the roster. Spurs could trade 4 firsts + keldon for Lauri and still have a ton of flexibility to make other moves or fill the roster out with draft picks. idk why he thinks making any move = trading every single pick we own
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    Body acts like making any move is going to use literally every asset the franchise has : Denver's window isn't closed. Neither is Milwaukee. there are plenty of trades they could orchestrate to improve a little bit and even without them they're still contenders next season. and unlike those teams that are capped out with 3 max salaries right now, the Spurs own a number of other teams picks to trade and don't have any particularly bad contracts on the roster. Spurs could trade 4 + keldon for Lauri and still have a ton of flexibility to make other moves or fill the roster out with draft picks. idk why he thinks making any move = trading every single pick we own
    More to the point, Mrs. Body doesn't realize that the new CBA is going to absolutely murder teams who wait until their stars mature into their second and third contracts. I mean, the owner of the ing Boston 2024 NBA Champion Celtics is ing selling out because he doesn't want to deal with an ownership scenario where he has to reconcile Brown + Tatum making 100 million+ per year with the second apron. All of which is to say that when you have a top-10 player on a rookie contract and don't have to worry about the implications of the CBA, it might be a good idea to maximize that opportunity.
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    To make any major move for a top player your going to have to move a player and probably all of Atlanta Hawk picks. At this point I am still on the two year Tank Plan which has worked out so far as we got Wemby with last years pick. So for me 2025 is cool for Pop to do his crazy lineups and gives us a pick hopefully in the 8 to 10 range and then hope the basketball God's don't like the Hawks and they net us a top 5 player......

    After 2025 I would start to pivot to making moves and maybe letting some players go to start getting players to not only help in starting but also building out our bench.

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    the Hawks picks. We're going to draft 19 year olds so they can take 4, 5 years to develop? And there's no guarantee they'll be any good at that. Start using your draft capital now.

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    It’s okay, if we’re really bad, it’s cause we’re tanking. That’s what people were saying last season which resulted in us trading away one of our lottery picks cause it was a weak draft we “tanked” for lol.

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