Levelling up the roster around a 20-year-old All-NBA/DPOY player?
That's not who we are!
We need to give Champagnie, Branham and Wesley starter minutes for at least another three seasons before deciding whether to move off them.
They're only kids for 's sake! Patience!
In the meantime we should be stockpiling future pick swaps because that's the The Spurs Way.
What are we gonna do with those pick swaps down the line? That's family business.
You can't trade your way to a le!
Just look at the Celtics. They couldn't get it done with Tatum and Brown at first but stayed calm, kept a hold of their assets and drafted guys like Derrick White, Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porzingis to put them over the top.
Brian had a lot of success in Orlando and Detroit so just give him time to build the team his way.
So quit your yapping and support the team.
I don't think Wemby will be a top 3 player this season. He's going to be an amazing player and will almost certainly be the best player in the league if he stays healthy but y'all gotta calm down a bit on this. Not going all in in year two isn't wasting a year of Wemby.
So absolutely on point.
It is managerial malpractice not to take advantage of having a Top-10 player on effectively what is an MLE deal for the next 3 years. Waiting until Wemby eats up 30% of your cap to start making moves is, for lack of a better term, ing stupid.
NFL teams, who operate with a true hard cap, have figured this out. If you draft a rookie QB who is a stud, you immediately add pieces while that QB is cheap, because once his first extension kicks in you're going to have a much harder time building around him. The new CBA is forcing NBA teams to think about the consequences of a salary cap in ways they've never had to before, and this is the obvious model.
If Lauri (as an example) costs 4 FRPs... think about it... what are the odds that a FRP, who's placement in the draft is unknown and may end up at #1 or #30, turns out as good as Lauri? If it's 25% odds, which is generous, you've basically traded equal value by sending 4 FRPs.
I don't expect this FO to even attempt to make these very obvious moves, because 25 years ago they got lucky and built a team for the ages and now they think they know better, ignoring the fact that it was a different game played with different rules. Adapt or die, es.
One thing Wemby is going to have to bulk up he going going to be going up against a lot of big dudes in the new season - Gobert, Clingan, Edey, KAT, etc...
I never understand why people say this. It makes no sense.
Old-fashioned way of thinking.
Rookie Wemby matched up well against Giannis and Jokic, there's absolutely no need for him to bulk up too much.
His length is overwhelming and even if you push him all the way under the basket, his contests are still the best in the league.
The only way to effectively score on him in the post is to have ridiculously good scoring ability and finesse like Jokic or Embiid do.
These scrubs with no post moves wouldn't be able to do even if they were 400lbs.
This is the most frustrating part for me.
They need to realize that Wemby isn't in Timmy, but Admiral situation.
Do people think moves wouldn't have been made early in Timmy's career if he got drafted to a bad roster and not an actual playoff team that had injury misfortune?
Nowdays every NBA team has a dozen nerds all around the world watching under-16 games and scouting talent.
Spurs created a dynasty with no trades because their scouting was way ahead of the curve. Can't do that anymore.
I dunno about people lining up to play with Wemby. It's still San Antonio and we never saw anyone line up to play with Timmy nor Kawhi for that window he was our franchise player. San Antonio, as a city, sucks ass. It's dirtier, uglier and more boring than just 10 years ago.
Wemby doesn't seem to be an introvert the way Duncan was, so I can't see him staying loyal to the Spurs if they aren't aggressive in making this team contend ASAP. When players start lining up to play with Wemby, it wont be in San Antonio as painful as it is to say. Expecting our top guys to be subservient to the team culture and philosophy isn't practical anymore and Wemby showed he has balls by checking himself into games and what not. Guy's desire to win instantly is faster than the pace the Spurs FO like to move. If Pop holds them back again with his sandbagging, cooked-ass management, it's not a matter "if" he leaves, it's simply "when".
This is painful because I just don't see the Spurs willing to change anything in their approach or methodology to cater to star talents that need to be catered to. I strongly believe he's not a Spur longer than he has to be unless the FO does a 180 the next two years.
i look forward to op laying out a complex plan to upgrade the roster with vets , and why rob dilligham would have solved cancer , something about sengun and halliburton,
I wonder if there is anyone in the Spurs front office who is even thinking this way, let alone voicing these opinions. Or is just a bunch of yes men, slobbering over the fact they get to work with RC and Pop and just soaking it all in?
A good front office should have people fighting over what the right path forward is. RC and Pop have so much (earned) cache that it may just shut down any dissent from the get go, which is a disservice to the team. I actually think RC and Pop would be receptive and open to dissenting opinions and would be open to a compelling case to go another direction (this is just speculation on my part though), but do they even receive it? I definitely doubt they get it from ownership. My guess is that Holt Jr. has put complete faith in RC and Pop to handle everything, and his role is exclusive to finding financial partners to join the group.
I also wonder what governance there is over the Holt family. They are the managing partners, but I don't think they are the majority owners. I know there have been some partners in the past (like Valero, don't know if they still are, Dell now, the PE group, etc) who are accustomed and experienced at running serious businesses. Is there corporate governance in place to exert influence upon management, or is it all just Holt Jr?
more most teams, trading 4 picks is emptying the coffers when all they really have are their own natural picks. the spurs have a starting point of owning 3 other FRP's, outright, unprotected, in addition to a couple of protected ones. the swaps also make our individual picks more valuable, so trading one swapped pick, like 2030, has more value than a typical team trading their natural 2030 pickBody acts like making any move is going to use literally every asset the franchise has: Denver's window isn't closed. Neither is Milwaukee. there are plenty of trades they could orchestrate to improve a little bit and even without them they're still contenders next season. and unlike those teams that are capped out with 3 max salaries right now, the Spurs own a number of other teams picks to trade and don't have any particularly bad contracts on the roster. Spurs could trade 4 firsts + keldon for Lauri and still have a ton of flexibility to make other moves or fill the roster out with draft picks. idk why he thinks making any move = trading every single pick we own
the spurs made all those tank moves to trade for additional draft capital, and within 1 year of going full tank we just wound up getting wemby with our own natural pick anyway, with all the surplus picks to boot
Not if you count the defensive impact as well...
Wasting? He just completed his rookie season and you’re ing about wasting years?
We have Wemby on an MLE deal for 4 years. The first of them has already passed. If you spend the next one soft tanking, then yes... you've wasted one of those years. In Year 5, Wemby will cost us $56MM/yr. It's managerial malpractice to not take advantage of the year's he'll only cost us the MLE.Wasting? He just completed his rookie season and you’re ing about wasting years?
STFU got, all you do is hit and run with your ty ass posts like this.Wasting? He just completed his rookie season and you’re ing about wasting years?
But they already wasted one right?
Moot thread.
Shut up , I didn’t give you permission to speak
Oh yes because you give up the farm to go from the lottery to 1st round knockout to keep your superstar
Using a troll account because you're a made got.
Use your main smegma breath.
Calling another man a made got on the internet because we all know deep down you’re soft as tissueUsing a troll account because you're a made got.
Use your main smegma breath.
Says the got hiding under an altCalling another man a made got on the internet because we all know deep down you’re soft as tissue
Says the got hiding under an alt
Says the got who hits and runs in and out of threads for 15 years.
What? You want me here everyday crying like a like you? You’re a whiny who has nothing better to do but be a behind some made up iden ySays the got who hits and runs in and out of threads for 15 years.
What? You want me here everyday crying like a like you? You’re a whiny who has nothing better to do but be a behind some made up iden ySpurs fans don't agree with my pussy ass way of thinking so I'm going to call them out
That’s great way of summarizing how you spent the last 20 years of your life
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