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He didn't improve the Bulls or the Cavs
He has Utah not good enough to make the play in but not bad enough to get a top 5 pick
Im fine using KJ + Collins money. I even proposed a deal for them for Lavine + lowering protections on CHI pick
He didn't improve the Bulls or the Cavs
He has Utah not good enough to make the play in but not bad enough to get a top 5 pick
----+-++++Let's be honest, this team doesn't have the courage to trade for Lauri, or for any player in his talent and salary range.
Kawhi, Lamarcus, and to an extent Derozan, castrated the Spurs and they don't have the balls to do big boy trades for big boy players.
Kawhi just told them you I don't want to be here trade me
Lamarcus said nah I'm not coming off the bench and went home, never came back
Derozan said pay the max or I'll play somewhere else.
Real nba players who are good are also demanding, something they will find out the hard way dealing with Victor. He won't be a wide eyed 20 year old forever. A few more years of him watching his contemporaries teams get better while his team just keeps "keeping the powder dry" and he'll be itching to get out to. He'll stay long enough to get super maxed...which is on pace to be around 450 million dollars, and then bounce.
The kings had Haliburton, knew he would be good, but traded him to the Pacers anyway, to get a player in Sabonis to pair with their franchise player Fox. That takes balls. Cause Haliburton came into the league on fire. From the first time he stepped on the court for the Kings he oozed gawd tier offensive talent. But the Kings picked a player, Fox, and they picked a direction, and said this is what we doing and that's just that.
If that is the type of team who is pursuing Lauri, you think this pussy ass front office can even compete with them
A team who signs the Mcbuckets and Collins of the world are now going to jump up out of nowhere and sign an all star caliber player shooting 50 40 90 in his prime
This front office is just collecting picks because they are to pussy to do anything else
These clowns had to pay Chris Paul 11 million dollars to be a babysitter
Hahaha
Any updates guys?
I'm thinking Markkanen 24/7 now huhuhuhuu
I feel like this thought process is based on the Spurs competing in the West and being successful in the playoffs with Lauri. IMO I just don't see that happening with the West being so deep. So to give up picks/cap space towards getting Lauri and him taking minutes from Sidy, Julian, and at times Castle/Vassell/Sochan, wouldn't be the best answer in the short or long term just for the sake of saying Spurs possibly made it to the play-in. Doesn't mean moves can't be made still before trade deadline if Castle shows he's even better than advertised or others have improved together as a unit drastically but not right now.
And in the meantime, the '25 draft is loaded with players who I think could come in and make a big difference right away in addition to Castle and others gaining experience this year and having a great feel next year. If Lauri is available as a FA then, and still fits, then sure, Spurs will have more room and knowledge on what they have and who fits and who doesn't. I just don't see Lauri as a can't miss product that needs to be acquired to compromise the FO's plan forward - and this is most likely why nothing has transpired with Lauri with Spurs as well as the rest of the league.
Not an exact answer to your question, but these are the current betting odds (columns: 1-championship ; 2 conference; 3 division)
Nets, Wizards, Blazers look like three worst rosters right now.
Pistons, Hornets, Bulls are trying to put something together, but should also be horrible.
Raptors have some pieces, but will surely want to get another top5 pick.
Jazz depends on Lauri trade, but even with him they'll tank.
Imo, those are top8 worst teams that will be tanking intentionally. Barring an injury crisis, noone else is getting in there.
Spurs, Hawks, Rockets are in that tier of young teams trying to actually win games.
Then we have Clippers and Warriors as zombie rosters trying to stay relevant, but it would be better if they just blow it up.
Heat, Pelicans, Kings, Suns, Lakers as the play-in candidates.
That's 18 teams that could end up in the lottery, other 12 should definitely be in the playoffs unless a major injury crisis happens, similar to Grizzlies this season.
I'd say that both Spurs and Hawks can finish in 9-15th best odds range. 9-12th seems realistic.
We're entering nonsense reports territory because nothing is happening.
What's Riley going to offer? A staredown?
Two swaps, Jovic, Jacquez and Herro? Lmao.
yeah all they can offer is a 5.2 million deal. I have no clue what they are trying to do, but I'm pretty sure the Spurs at least gonna jump in to help facilitate certain deals and get some more assets out of it.
another 2031 swap would be AMAZING
Mostly agree although I, due to my opinion of Lauri and role on this spurs team if he were obtained, do think theres more risk than most admit especially if Spurs pay on the higher end of the spectrum (and that’s not factoring in the opportunity cost lost).
I think he fits well and Im open to the idea but I do believe caution is warranted for the reasons I explained (role on the team, just overall risk alongside Spurs still having a lot of holes they need to fill to make the team very compe ive even if they got Lauri but lost 4+ picks and Keldon/Sochan)
But can they pull off that heist without trading Castle?
Completely off topic, but if anyone enjoyed Money Heist (La Casa de Papel) I just found the prequel of that series is "Berlin" on Netflix and it is ing awesome/hilarious. And if you never saw the original you should be ashamed, watch in Spanish with sub les.
this is why i said MPJ and not Evan Mobley
he uses his length as a weapon offensively
Just to add to what Splits posted
Vegas Odds
2024-2025 Eastern Conference Winner
Boston +140
New York +400
Philadelphia +400
Milwaukee +600
Miami +2000
Cleveland +2000
Indiana +2500
Orlando +2500
Atlanta +25000
Chicago +25000
Charlotte +3000
2024-2025 Western Conference Winner
Denver +375
Oklahoma City +375
Minnesota +450
Dallas +500
Los Angeles Lakers +1400
Phoenix +1600
Golden State +1800
Memphis +1800
New Orleans +2000
Los Angeles Clippers +2500
Sacramento +3300
Houston +6000
San Antonio +6000
2024-25 Southwest Division Winner
Dallas +120
Memphis +260
New Orleans +300
Houston +1000
San Antonio +3000
I don't disagree, except that I'm not yet sure where Toronto stands. Anyway, these are the odds of landing AT LEAST one top 4 pick (maybe 2) for every possible combination between Spurs' own pick and Atlanta's (in yellow the range you specified):
If they finish 9 & 10 (or viceversa), there's a 32.14% chance of landing a top 4 pick. If one of them sneaks into the bottom 8, then chances increase substantially. My point is, there's an interesting chance Spurs could land a very good pick next year, in a loaded draft. And even if not, still should be very valuable picks, whether to keep or trade. Consider the return for #8 in a weak draft, 2 picks in that range in a much better one can be even more valuable. I'd keep those picks.
Different player back then. Utah were meant to have bottom out and Lauri made them too good. Hardy also gets credit.
Didn’t you hear? All 36 NBA teams, including the 8 future expansion teams, are showing interest in Lauri.
Angie trolling everyone this off season.
I guess the difference between your and mine opinion is that I don't really think 32.14% are good odds.
Especially since it's not once 32.14% chance, but 13.9% and 20.2%.
I'd even be fine if we could move up a bit, but it's either top4, stay at your position or move down.
No 5-8th pick if you have 9th odds.
Of course, we could try and trade up, but I don't think it's going to happen in a strong draft.
Also, my general idea for Markkanen trade excludes trading '25 picks, Jazz has enough '25 picks.
I just don't want Spurs to tank to gett a better pick of our own. Just play the season out.
We’re entering Danny Ainge ain’t getting for offers territory.
Immaterial from adding them together. We own all of the number combinations.
But don't those combinations change as the draft goes on or it's just simulated all at once?
As in every single outcome has a number and then they just pull one out?
Regardless, I'll always be a believer that teams with franchise player in place shouldn't base their strategy on unfavorable odds.
As I said in a previous post, even if we get those 32% odds and jump into top4, what are odds of drafting a player better than Markkanen?
Around 25%?
Even if it's a 50-50 if we can draft a player better than Markkanen after jumping with 32% odds, what are the odds of that player being than Markkanen in first three seasons after the draft?
Or are we going to wait to be legit contenders until Wemby turns 25?
Again, I wouldn't trade '25 picks, but you can apply this same logic to '27.
We going to hold onto that pick just to have a lottery ticked with Wemby already being the best player in the league instead of getting him some help?
He definitely does
Just saying Ainge won’t let him go unless he gets a grewt return
The problem for the Jazz is that all the GMs making offers are smart and aren’t going to overpay. GSW, Spurs, and the Heat are too well run to give the haul Ainge will want. Kings have a better GM and don’t do the stupid stuff they did in the past. Ainge prays on dumb teams and desperate teams and none of those teams are the kind he exploits.
I predict Jazz resign him and wait for a desperate team to show next season.
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