2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[Chinook]

First round picks automatically count for 120 percent these days, right? Last I looked, last rookie to take less than 120% was George Hill -- and that was after the Spurs threatened to not sign him at all after his poor summer league showing

I want to say Kawhi was the first player the Spurs drafted that legit got 120 without a fight. Hill got 80 percent, which was so slow that one of the later years had to be adjusted upwards because it was below the min.

For example, James Anderson got $1,361,400 against a scale of $1,134,500. The Spurs used to be quite mercenary about rookie contracts. I don't remember if the 2011 CBA is the one that made 120 percent basically the standard, but since Kawhi (including Joseph), the Spurs have been giving out 120 percent. It was to the point that I had just assume my chart already accounted for that.

EDIT Wow, okay, I guess I forgot how to do math or thought 1.36 was 1.16 or something. I remember one of his years wasn't 120. But I would have to look more into this to see if I could remember which one.

[k830713]

Can Chris Paul sign later for the MLE exception?? Then 25 million will be available.

[Dex]

Sorry if already posted:

[DPG21920]

The Spurs have CHI25:2 (Chicago's natural second-rounder for this upcoming draft), and I would imagine that would hold decent value for a rebuilding Bulls. The Kings have four seconds they can move (or least did after the draft):

One of SAC25:2 or POR25:2, SAC28:2, SAC29:2 and SAC31:2

I don't know that they can afford to trade a whole bunch of them. But do you know what they can afford to trade? And unprotected 2029 swap. I think there's a good chance we see something like the Bullock trade happen again where the Spurs take salary and give up some seconds in exchange for a distant swap.

That would make sense. I think for me the bigger picture is spurs wont be sending out net picks in this deal. They may send out a pick(s) but they will recoup equal or greater value in addition to Barnes or Huerter IMO

[DPG21920]

This is good for our remote chances at that CHA pick.

Clippers miss out on their chance at scoring the woman abuser trifecta.

This is great news. CHA if LaMelo is healthy has a chance to sneak in via play-in now.

[jeebus]

I'd rather have Huerter cause he's younger, although we'd have a logjam at SG then and really need another PF.

I doubt either player would stay long; probably just a season or two and that's it.

[scott]

This is great news. CHA if LaMelo is healthy has a chance to sneak in via play-in now.

Yeah, I'd feel even more optimistic if they had taken Clingan instead of Salaun, but at least this gives them an outside shot.

[Dverde]

Not feeling Spurs would do all this stretching for Harrison Barnes to trade later on. This has to be for Huerter.

[dbestpro]

Could Johnson be going to Sacramento for Barnes and Huerter? Then Sacramento signs Derozan.

[Chinook]

That would make sense. I think for me the bigger picture is spurs wont be sending out net picks in this deal. They may send out a pick(s) but they will recoup equal or greater value in addition to Barnes or Huerter IMO

Well what's a net pick?

I could see something like:

Spurs: Three seconds (including CHI25:2), Bassey for Barnes/Huerter and swap rights to SAC29

Kings: Barnes/Huerter and swap rights to SAC29 for DeRozan (via S&T)

Bulls: DeRozan (via S&T) for Bassey, CHI25:2

I don't think that's a great deal for the Spurs, but if they believe the SAC wing would be a rotation player, it's probably on par with what they got in the Bullock trade.

[DPG21920]

Well what's a net pick?

I could see something like:

Spurs: Three seconds (including CHI25:2), Bassey for Barnes/Huerter and swap rights to SAC29

Kings: Barnes/Huerter and swap rights to SAC29 for DeRozan (via S&T)

Bulls: DeRozan (via S&T) for Bassey, CHI25:2

I don't think that's a great deal for the Spurs, but if they believe the SAC wing would be a rotation player, it's probably on par with what they got in the Bullock trade.

Net pick means they get something in terms of pick of greater or equal value back when we evaluate it. I wouldn’t mind a small net loss to be clear, as you outlined above but I dont think that’s going to happen personally.

[RC_Drunkford]

I doubt either player would stay long; probably just a season or two and that's it.

nor should they, but a young Huerter should be more valuable on the trade market.

[scott]

Pls keep Prince Bassey's name out your damn mouths. Use Champ's instead. Kthx.

[r0drig0lac]

[LeBowen]

Pls keep Prince Bassey's name out your damn mouths. Use Champ's instead. Kthx.

I'm afraid Bassey's knees are done with basketball.
Didn't he have two surgeries already?

[timvp]

Bertans and Poku waived at the same time? DAF86 get in here

[scott]

I'm afraid Bassey's knees are done with basketball.
Didn't he have two surgeries already?

I DO NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT

[Chinook]

If there's even a one-percent chance he lives up to his potential, you've got to take him.

[DPG21920]

Pls keep Prince Bassey's name out your damn mouths. Use Champ's instead. Kthx.

lol I like Champ more than Bassey

[baseline bum]

This is great news. CHA if LaMelo is healthy has a chance to sneak in via play-in now.

I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as they were only 7-15 in games he played last year. They going tanking another year.

[DPG21920]

I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as they were only 7-15 in games he played last year. They going tanking another year.

Sure but he was out half the season etc…I think between how he came back after suspension with rust and all the turbulence it’s not exactly great scenario. Dont get me wrong I dont think it’s “likely” but there was ZERO chance they lose him and make play-in. Now? There’s at least a reasonable chance if LaMelo stays healthy with Miller and Bridges that they can get there especially with virtually all other non-playoff teams tanking.

It’s ATL + CHA as leaders for play-in. Then they just need to get hot for 2 games

[Dex]

I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as they were only 7-15 in games he played last year. They going tanking another year.

Aren't the Hornets perpetually (and unintentionally) tanking?

Even if they snuck into the play-in or playoffs, they'd get obliterated by the top 4 in the East (Celtics, Sixers, Bucks, Knicks)

[baseline bum]

Yeah, I'd feel even more optimistic if they had taken Clingan instead of Salaun, but at least this gives them an outside shot.

[LeBowen]

I wouldn't get your hopes too high, as they were only 7-15 in games he played last year. They going tanking another year.

Someone has to make the play-in.

Nets, Wizards, Pistons and Bulls should be out of the picture.
Raptors and Hornets will be better, but will also want to tank and that's 6 teams already, one makes the play-in.
Hawks being the other probable play-in team.

[Dejounte]

Bertans and Poku waived at the same time? DAF86 get in here

Risacher is the next to be waived in four years tbh