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    Doubt he will, goal for Jeremy is to be a switchable defender and passable shooter moving forward. I like Barnes a lot for what he brings to the locker room especially for our young guys, and he'll have nights where he blows up and puts up 30, but those nights are getting fewer and further between and his defense has been slipping a lot.

    I'm not really going to make this about Sochan because he was objectively one of the worst players in the league last season, but he's still got a decent runway so I'm not going to demand he gets traded for a protected second or anything unless he doesn't show anything at year 4.
    Barnes is exactly what we need. Consistent wing shooting.
    Fourth option behind Wemby, Devin and CP3.
    I'm not going to criticize his defense until I see him play with Wemby.
    Poor guy had Sabonis as his rim protector.

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    I'd straight up waive Sidy after today's SL game if it meant keeping Champ around
    Same

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    Isn’t the Minnesota pick swap from the Wolves deal 2030?

    Spurs get:

    • 2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
    • 2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)

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    This is laughable. Barnes is a net negative player. He’s a career role player. CP3 at least has been an elite player. You can’t say that about Barnes. Back in the day, we’d bring in vets like Mario Elie, who’d have proven their mettle. Barnes is a garbage player, who can’t contribute on the court and can’t contribute in the locker room.

    Vic is figuring to take a major leap this season. We’re not going to get a top 10 pick naturally (hope I’m wrong). But this trade doesn’t advance the ball at all, and signals a white flag on meaningful moves like Lauri. Like, wtf is this front office doing or thinking
    If they're in for Lauri, they can easily match his salary, Barnes is basically our second free agent signing since we absorbed him into cap space.

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    This is obvious a good trade but kinda sucks not to be able to bring back Cedi.

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    Happy for Demar still getting that kind of money this late in his career.

    Kings have a nice little team heading into the next season. Not sure if they'll win a playoff round but should be fun to watch.

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    Isn’t the Minnesota pick swap from the Wolves deal 2030?

    Spurs get:

    • 2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
    • 2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)
    You're right, my bad.

    So we got one swap in 2030 and one in 2031, with an extra 2031 pick on top.

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    This is laughable. Barnes is a net negative player. He’s a career role player. CP3 at least has been an elite player. You can’t say that about Barnes. Back in the day, we’d bring in vets like Mario Elie, who’d have proven their mettle. Barnes is a garbage player, who can’t contribute on the court and can’t contribute in the locker room.

    Vic is figuring to take a major leap this season. We’re not going to get a top 10 pick naturally (hope I’m wrong). But this trade doesn’t advance the ball at all, and signals a white flag on meaningful moves like Lauri. Like, wtf is this front office doing or thinking
    But Demar needed help!

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    Barnes is exactly what we need. Consistent wing shooting.
    Fourth option behind Wemby, Devin and CP3.
    I'm not going to criticize his defense until I see him play with Wemby.
    Poor guy had Sabonis as his rim protector.
    I hope you're right, he's been a very good catch and shoot guy and that's stayed pretty consistent the last few years. That said, even if you're wrong and he slips even more, he's preferable to me compared to Huerter just from a locker room/character/vet standpoint so the trade's still a win in my book.

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    why would he get traded
    Julian? for cap space, if you’re referring to my Keldon theory. I can’t imagine a player repped by Klutch going into his prime wants to be coming off the bench.

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    Wow he's only 32? For some reason I thought he was late 30's

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    This is obvious a good trade but kinda sucks not to be able to bring back Cedi.
    How? It means Castle won’t start. Barnes is a net negative player. The swap is ing laughable. And knowing this front office, it signals they’re done with meaningful offseason moves. Barnes has never been special, so who the cares about his “veteran leadership.” Huerter would have been a meaningful piece going forward and instead we went with the tier player. This trade is ing re ed.

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    I hope you're right, he's been a very good catch and shoot guy and that's stayed pretty consistent the last few years. That said, even if you're wrong and he slips even more, he's preferable to me compared to Huerter just from a locker room/character/vet standpoint so the trade's still a win in my book.
    For me it's about positional fit.
    If we keep Tre it means Castle will rarely be on the floor as the primary point guard.
    Devin will get 32mpg at SG, with Branham probably still getting some minutes.

    Keldon is still here, so where are Castle minutes if Huerter was the player we got?
    We'd have just Jeremy that's not undersized at PF.
    I don't want Keldon or Castle at PF.

    Like this Barnes keeps pressure on Jeremy and forces him to develop his shot faster.

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    If they're in for Lauri, they can easily match his salary, Barnes is basically our second free agent signing since we absorbed him into cap space.
    “If.” The fact they traded for a 32 year old tier version of Lauri should tell you everything you need to know about their intentions

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    The Minnesota 2031 pick has no bearing on this 2031 Sacramento pick swap.

    The Spurs receive the Minny pick outright regardless of where it is 1-30. Then on top of that they get to swap their own with the Kings for the better pick.

    So spurs will have two outright FRP’s in 2031.

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    Isn’t the Minnesota pick swap from the Wolves deal 2030?

    Spurs get:

    • 2031 first-round pick (unprotected)
    • 2030 pick swap (top 1 protected)
    Yup pick swap top 1 protected 2030 and unprotected 1st pick 2031

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    Damn, an unprotected 20131 pick swap from the Kings too? Awesome stuff. I don't even know why the Kings were willing to do this trade for DeRozan but I guess that PPG number is an irresistible Siren.

    The Spurs getting lottery picks during Wemby's prime? @ NBA

    I didn't love Barnes' second year but that pick swap makes this a no-brainer. Sure, Barnes is semi washed but a three-point shooting forward who is regarded as a top flight character guy? Nice fit for an up-and-coming team.

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    “If.” The fact they traded for a 32 year old tier version of Lauri should tell you everything you need to know about their intentions
    Sadly, you're probably right.
    But then again, they got another swap to trade.

    Even if Lauri extends, we can match it with Keldon, Collins and Tre.

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    But hey, if the NBA is around for Trump’s fourth term, we’re ing set

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    Maybe the Spurs can sign Manu and Barlow with the Room Exception

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    Barnes isn’t anything special but he made 149 3s last year - that would’ve put him 2nd on the Spurs roster last year Throw in the fact that we have hardly any PF depth, he’s known as a good veteran locker room guy, and we got an unprotected FRP swap…I don’t see how you can hate this.

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    This is laughable. Barnes is a net negative player. He’s a career role player. CP3 at least has been an elite player. You can’t say that about Barnes. Back in the day, we’d bring in vets like Mario Elie, who’d have proven their mettle. Barnes is a garbage player, who can’t contribute on the court and can’t contribute in the locker room.

    Vic is figuring to take a major leap this season. We’re not going to get a top 10 pick naturally (hope I’m wrong). But this trade doesn’t advance the ball at all, and signals a white flag on meaningful moves like Lauri. Like, wtf is this front office doing or thinking
    Getting an unprotected swap and a veteran player for jack is a good move. Now if they can get Lauri Markkanen by giving up some of the assets they have amassed and trading Keldon..that would be a perfect offseason. A team with CP3, Vassell, Sochan, Markkanen, Wemby and Jones, Castle, Champagnie, Barnes, Collins can make it to the playoffs. Let's see.

    But even without Lauri..getting these assets and a vet player is a net win

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    Damn, an unprotected 20131 pick swap from the Kings too? Awesome stuff. I don't even know why the Kings were willing to do this trade for DeRozan but I guess that PPG number is an irresistible Siren.

    The Spurs getting lottery picks during Wemby's prime? @ NBA

    I didn't love Barnes' second year but that pick swap makes this a no-brainer. Sure, Barnes is semi washed but a three-point shooting forward who is regarded as a top flight character guy? Nice fit for an up-and-coming team.

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    How? It means Castle won’t start. Barnes is a net negative player. The swap is ing laughable. And knowing this front office, it signals they’re done with meaningful offseason moves. Barnes has never been special, so who the cares about his “veteran leadership.” Huerter would have been a meaningful piece going forward and instead we went with the tier player. This trade is ing re ed.
    He definitely didn't fit as well next to Sabonis but he's not really a net negative player. Historically he's been a slightly above average NBA player. It cost the Spurs nothing other than cap space. I honestly think its good for young players not to walk into start spots. They need to actually compete for them. This team will be close to .500 next year which is excellent for development purposes.

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