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    wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooo

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    I wouldn't hate that deal. I seem to remember some people were wanting to throw them multiple Atlanta picks plus the Minnesota assets. And Devin has been mentioned more than a few times. That all seemed like overkill. This is one of the more sensible options I've seen listed.
    My offer for Lauri has been (and remains):

    SA26 (Atl Swap attached)
    SA28 (Bos Swap attached)
    SA30 (Min & Dal Swaps attached)
    MIN 31
    Keldon or Collins (I prefer they take Collins, but they can have whoever they want). If they want Sochan too, they can have him.

    My rationale on these specific picks (which I've explained in the Lauri thread) is that the even number year picks fit best with Ainge's existing warchest (he is flush already in odd year picks), and the SA30 + MIN31 gives him an even great deathgrip on MIN. I don't see how any other team can beat this or why Ainge would say no to this right now.

    If Ainge wants Keldon, I'm immediately on the phone trying to get MIL to trade Collins + a handful of SRPs for Brook Lopez.

    Also, I'm hoping Bassey isn't done here. I'll be the first to admit, my man's knees have been through some ... but he is the prince who was promised. (I have personal reasons why I like Bassey so much).

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    I’m just glad we could do right by Derozen 4 years after his time here. That’s really what matters. Getting the guy whose name sounds like a bit character from Sanford and Sons and who has t been relevant since the Obama administration is icing on that sweet Brian Wright cake

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    Good. Another vet to add to the tank this year. And we get another swap option, that's great for the war chest.

    If we cash in any of the assets now it's a massive mistake. We are in asset collection mode and not win now mode. Fantastic job by the FA.

    I like that this is a swap instead of a first round pick, allows the kings to make more win now trades for their 4 season window, which will likely make the 31 pick even better once the window closes in 29/30.

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    - If 2 have to go, Wesley and Cissoko should be the automatics. If 3, unfortunately Bassey.

    - This is basically a discount Rockets '23 off season. At least they have some credible veterans, who can shoot, so they can run some functional core lineups.

    - Expect Sochan to continue to start and be listed as the PF, but Barnes will primarily defend the position.

    - Johnson, Castle, Jones, Collins should make up the rotation off the bench, with Champagnie and Branham competing for spot minutes.

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    I would never boo DeMar. He did everything he could to help the Spurs when he was here.

    What bothers me more is the the Spurs haven't let anyone have jersey #2 since the Number Two debacle. If you think Spurs fans booing Number Two at the line made Pop mad, imagine what would happen if #2 went into the rafters. Has a player ever been booed throughout their own jersey retirement ceremony?
    I’ll be there to lecture the crowd when we do.

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    barnes is a high character guy, has a ring, has a team usa gold medal , and doesn't have high usage. we couldn't ask for a better vet to be a mentor and a tank captain at the same time.

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    LOL, love my guy vy65, he's hilarious and keeps real.

    I'm not down on this like vy is, but I'm not quite as excited as others... yet.

    If this is basically it for the offseason, then I'm very meh on it. We've improved the team and we won't have a bunch of low IQ chuckers out there making it look like the Spurs are Wemby + 4 scrubs they picked up off West Ave. But we haven't improved it enough to be a play-in/playoff contender, which I think should be our aim to get Wemby (and Devin) that experience in playing in meaningful games. That's an important step they need, and I believe in Wemby enough to want it THIS YEAR.

    So that means we're sitting somewhere around pick 10-12. That's not bad... but it could be better. Getting another swap is cool. But I think people overrate the value of swaps. They definitely have value... but people view them as FRPs, and they aren't. If you were assigning a numerical value to them, they're worth somewhere around a late first/early second. Again... I appreciate the free swaps, and I'm glad Brian Wright collects them like kids collect Pokemon... but let's not get overly excited about them.

    Now, if this is move one ahead of a bigger move (we aren't getting Lauri... but...), then in' A where do I sign up for the Brian Wright/PAFTO fan club (I lost my membership info when I renounced my Sniffer status)? Is Barnes great? No? Should he be starting? , I hope not. But if we got Lauri, and Keldon or Sochan (or both) are outgoing... then Barnes is the kind of bench 3/4 that will be helpful. He's got 71 playoff games and 63 playoff starts under his belt, which will be helpful if we become a playoff team (which we will if we get Lauri).

    TL;DR: Pull up your big boy pants and get Lauri. Let's ing go.
    I actually think this team is definitely in contention for the play in.

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    I didn’t realize we got a 1st rd pick swap for this… turn it around and include it in the Lauri trade?

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    So where does Castle fit into all this? We need to be fair to Malaki, Blake, Jeremy, and Harrison and make sure they get their minutes. Sounds like attractive Urkel might be spending some time on Rainey Street in 2024-2025.

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    I actually think this team is definitely in contention for the play in.
    You're an eternal optimist. I like that about you.

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    I’m just glad we could do right by Derozen 4 years after his time here. That’s really what matters. Getting the guy whose name sounds like a bit character from Sanford and Sons and who has t been relevant since the Obama administration is icing on that sweet Brian Wright cake
    Just wait until the time comes for us to facilitate a Kawhi trade. I don't know how we'll be able to absorb $200MM in exchange for a 2057 swap, but Pop will make sure Brian finds a way.

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    Just wait until the time comes for us to facilitate a Kawhi trade. I don't know how we'll be able to absorb $200MM in exchange for a 2057 swap, but Pop will make sure Brian finds a way.
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    Keldon + filler (Branham or Blake) + S/ATL 27 + SA 2030 (+MIN Swap) + 20131 MIN. They can have a few SRPs if that wets their whistle. That’s full control over Minnesota’s future plus a potentially high unprotected FRP and a serviceable player. I think that’s a slightly better package than what NYK paid for Bridges.
    Three picks and filler probably isn't enough to land Markannen, at least not unless he tells Ainge he won't sign an extension. My best offer would be SA 26 w/ unprotected ATL swap, 27 ATL unprotected, 2030 SA w/ unprotected DAL swap / top 1 protected MIN swap, and first choice of 2031 SA/SAC/MIN (in case he'd rather have the Minnesota pick to squeeze them harder rather than best pick available). And filler (Keldon or Collins)

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    - If 2 have to go, Wesley and Cissoko should be the automatics. If 3, unfortunately Bassey.

    - This is basically a discount Rockets '23 off season. At least they have some credible veterans, who can shoot, so they can run some functional core lineups.

    - Expect Sochan to continue to start and be listed as the PF, but Barnes will primarily defend the position.

    - Johnson, Castle, Jones, Collins should make up the rotation off the bench, with Champagnie and Branham competing for spot minutes.
    Branham is the automatic, he's ing useless.

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    YoU soN OF a i’M In

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    Keldon + filler (Branham or Blake) + S/ATL 27 + SA 2030 (+MIN Swap) + 20131 MIN. They can have a few SRPs if that wets their whistle. That’s full control over Minnesota’s future plus a potentially high unprotected FRP and a serviceable player. I think that’s a slightly better package than what NYK paid for Bridges.
    I’m sure the spurs would do that trade in a second. I highly doubt the Jazz would. We’ll see around August.

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    Three picks and filler probably isn't enough to land Markannen, at least not unless he tells Ainge he won't sign an extension. My best offer would be SA 26 w/ unprotected ATL swap, 27 ATL unprotected, 2030 SA w/ unprotected DAL swap / top 1 protected MIN swap, and first choice of 2031 SA/SAC/MIN (in case he'd rather have the Minnesota pick to squeeze them harder rather than best pick available). And filler (Keldon or Collins)
    Yeah I’m not opposed to that. My only point is that offering three unprotected picks that include MINs entire future is better than 8 mid to late 20’s picks that NYK gave up. There’s a compe ive offer that could be made, but won’t be, because Brian Wright watched temple of doom a week ago and is convinced that anyone named Harrison is a bad ass.

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    Yeah I’m not opposed to that. My only point is that offering three unprotected picks that include MINs entire future is better than 8 mid to late 20’s picks that NYK gave up. There’s a compe ive offer that could be made, but won’t be, because Brian Wright watched temple of doom a week ago and is convinced that anyone named Harrison is a bad ass.
    I'd recommend we show him Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Dial of Destiny back-to-back to balance things out....unfortunately that would likely just cause him to waive Barnes and renounce Ingram without any return after he see what Harrison becomes.

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    This is one person's perception of Brian Wright. Impressive for a guy who's never built a playoff team.

    It's time for Brian to start translating "winning trades" into winning games.

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    Now if we can just trade vy65 to Detroit for a 20131 top 62 protected swap it will be a great off season.

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    Barnes has always been a very meh player but he's still better than any other F on the roster. he's had his most efficient offensive seasons of his career the last couple of years. the addition of Paul and Barnes should improve the dumpster fire offense massively

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    This is one person's perception of Brian Wright. Impressive for a guy who's never built a playoff team.

    It's time for Brian to start translating "winning trades" into winning games.
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