This feels like a Danny Ainge trade all of a sudden...
No, but I wouldn’t mind seeing the Lopez-Collins swap happen once Milwaukee comes down on its asking price. Send Wesley out to trim the herd too.Now, what I would LOVE to see is Spurs take Barnes + Blake Wesley + that Spurs/Kings swap and use that package we just got to get Cam Johnson. He fits better as a starter and would functionally act like getting Cam Johnson for “free” in free agency vs giving up a pick for him
But I know that’s too much GM’ing
A lot of work by our overpaid FO for washed players that aren't going to move the needle much but if it forces the front office to ditch members of our current ty roster i'm all for it. This board thinks pick swaps are gold
Wemby, Barnes, Vassel, Castle, and Paul to start. Sochan and Johnson will have to play smart to earn their minutes. The dumb ball will no longer get its run on the floor. Am looking forward to the return of the hard Pop with the young players. There are so many intangible benefits to this Barnes trade.
Wright understands the little black book of the nba. It’s a numbers game. Get as many numbers into your little black book as possible.
Some might never talk to you.
Others are a one night stand.
Some might a few times or introduce you to their friend who s.
Somewhere in there is a regular buddy.
But you always keep replenishing picks/swaps if you wanna .
Never stop stockpiling numbers.
Because in the nba you always need to to be relevant.
I’d love nothing more for you to be right. The sad truth is Barnes is a poverty version of Lauri and this trade, to me, is a clear signal they’re not going after the Finn.
Not that I'm expecting to get Markannen, but they could absorb his current deal sending out either Keldon or Zollins.
You could also argue this extends out the tentacles of the Derrick White trade.
Pop doesn't seem to care about talent and effort in his later years. Mamu and Graham would have started if that was the case.
If I had to guess it’ll be
Wemby
Sochan
Barnes
Vassell
Paul
Castle off the bench filling 1-3
Thanks for this Heisenberg, another valuable contribution in your long and storied career
Honestly - what would you give up for Lauri right now? The absolute maximum you would do.
Really hope the Spurs can find someone to take Bran Ham's tired ass so they can keep Champagnie.
It ain’t happening bro
LOL, love my guy vy65, he's hilarious and keeps real.
I'm not down on this like vy is, but I'm not quite as excited as others... yet.
If this is basically it for the offseason, then I'm very meh on it. We've improved the team and we won't have a bunch of low IQ chuckers out there making it look like the Spurs are Wemby + 4 scrubs they picked up off West Ave. But we haven't improved it enough to be a play-in/playoff contender, which I think should be our aim to get Wemby (and Devin) that experience in playing in meaningful games. That's an important step they need, and I believe in Wemby enough to want it THIS YEAR.
So that means we're sitting somewhere around pick 10-12. That's not bad... but it could be better. Getting another swap is cool. But I think people overrate the value of swaps. They definitely have value... but people view them as FRPs, and they aren't. If you were assigning a numerical value to them, they're worth somewhere around a late first/early second. Again... I appreciate the free swaps, and I'm glad Brian Wright collects them like kids collect Pokemon... but let's not get overly excited about them.
Now, if this is move one ahead of a bigger move (we aren't getting Lauri... but...), then in' A where do I sign up for the Brian Wright/PAFTO fan club (I lost my membership info when I renounced my Sniffer status)? Is Barnes great? No? Should he be starting? , I hope not. But if we got Lauri, and Keldon or Sochan (or both) are outgoing... then Barnes is the kind of bench 3/4 that will be helpful. He's got 71 playoff games and 63 playoff starts under his belt, which will be helpful if we become a playoff team (which we will if we get Lauri).
TL;DR: Pull up your big boy pants and get Lauri. Let's ing go.
Champ was trash, why do you want him back?
Another consolidation trade makes a lot of sense. Spurs are going to have to renounce/waive 3 guys it seems, so a consolidation trade of 2 or 3 for 1 makes plenty of sense if you can move someone(s) and get a player you like better that gets you to where you need to be and/or gets you some assets vs just renouncing and/or waiving
Keldon + filler (Branham or Blake) + S/ATL 27 + SA 2030 (+MIN Swap) + 20131 MIN. They can have a few SRPs if that wets their whistle. That’s full control over Minnesota’s future plus a potentially high unprotected FRP and a serviceable player. I think that’s a slightly better package than what NYK paid for Bridges.
Agree on the swaps, especially when viewed individually, but if just one of them really “hits”? Thats why you are really doing it. They are mini lottery tickets
You'd rather have Branham, the second worst player in the league by VORP?
I wouldn't hate that deal. I seem to remember some people were wanting to throw them multiple Atlanta picks plus the Minnesota assets. And Devin has been mentioned more than a few times. That all seemed like overkill. This is one of the more sensible options I've seen listed.
I think you also have to consider the teams that they're coming from (and the year). Not all swaps are the same.
A swap with Boston in a couple years doesn't seem likely to hit. But a swap with perennial basement dwelling Minnesota in 20131 has a lot more potential. Sacto is a similarly valuable equation in my mind.
Well of course, which is why they have any value at all (just like a lottery pick has value, or an unopened pack of basketball cards). But we can still value them accordingly at the time.
In the end, I think this is good value for the Spurs. I didn't even see what SRP we sent out, but who cares - it's not like we know wtf to do with SRPs anyway. We got a swap and an upgrade to our bench in a weak area (honestly, the whole team is a weak area outside of 3 or 4 guys right now) for free. Not complaints.
Individually, the deal is an A for me. But if this is it, then the offseason gets a C-. If we go out and get Lauri, then the entire offseason is an A+, and this move will have been an important part of that as well.
Edit: But we aren't getting Lauri. Brian Wright's probably never even heard of it, tbqh.
Man, if we could have had swaps back in the 2008-2014 era when we couldn't get any talent on the team.
My mind immediately went to the infamous "Matt Bonner as a starter" season. 2008-2009
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