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    Brutal

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    Especially when you add:

    ”Not out: Zack Levine’s contract”

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    I really don't know the waive-and-clear rules. If they can pull the players back, then there's no real issue here. Champ and Bassey are great bench guys.

    I do think the team remains positive on Branham, certainly more than general thought here.

    Osman will find more PT elsewhere.
    This article claims they can: Where the Spurs stand after the Harrison Barnes trade - Pounding The Rock

    Whatever the machinations, I feel confident in saying Champagnie and Branham will ultimately be on the team. Hopefully Bassey will be too.

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    This would just be dumb, and I legit don't understand this at ude. He was really good in 2022-2023 and clearly was thrown off last year and his confidence suffered. It's just a nonsense take. He's not making that much and is the only backup we have at that position.

    Is he a longterm solution? No. Is there any factual or basketball basis to wanting to get rid of him? No, it's just kneejerk nonsense.
    ‘There’s nothing wrong with wanting to upgrade a position of need, backup center, if we can. We should be trying to upgrade any of our weak points that we can every off season and trade deadline at this point. There’s no rookies coming that will save us, but there’s a lot of vets in FA and available in trade this offseason that could still help us eke out a few more wins and maybe grab a play in spot.

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    ‘There’s nothing wrong with wanting to upgrade a position of need, backup center, if we can. We should be trying to upgrade any of our weak points that we can every off season and trade deadline at this point. There’s no rookies coming that will save us, but there’s a lot of vets in FA and available in trade this offseason that could still help us eke out a few more wins and maybe grab a play in spot.
    Oh, definitely agree about upgrading Collins. Totally disagree with the "he sucks always sucks worst player evah" takes, which are just straight up ahistorical. It's the sort of dumb hysteria that infects this fanbase for some stupid reason. Zach Collins was really good at the end of 2022-2023. That's a fact. He was not good last season. This doesn't dissolve the fact that he was really strong. Maybe, just maybe, his confidence was shot and never settled into constantly changing roles.

    None of that is great, but it doesn't mean he cannot become good again. Regardless, the takes that he we need to get rid of him yesterday or use picks to get rid of him are just the grade Z takes that we should be better about. His contract isn't bad and we have no other options right now. People need to settle down.

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    Do we know yet that the Spurs really are absorbing Barnes into cap space, or is there some way they can structure things to stay over the cap?

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    Do we know yet that the Spurs really are absorbing Barnes into cap space, or is there some way they can structure things to stay over the cap?
    They just renounced all their cap holds so they're definitely taking him into space.

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    I'm with Chinook in thinking the Spurs gave the Bulls back their 2025 second round pick. The other second in the trade could be from the Spurs too.

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    It’s insane, 22y/o, good size (6’7” shoes, 6’9.5” wingspan), avg shooter, durable (played 67/72 games once he got the job, started 59), locked in for 3 yrs non guaranteed, where final yr may be adjust up as under min.
    Dudes in the 10 man rotation for nearly every team, rostered by everyone at his current level & sometimes 22y/o get better, esp on non-tanking teams. Dude has actual value on the K & age alone
    ‘Don’t worry. Champ isn’t going anywhere.

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    So the Spurs might have spent 3 seconds, including a likely 31-40 Chicago pick plus $40 million in cap to get a just a first round swap?

    Weak

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    So the Spurs might have spent 3 seconds, including a likely 31-40 Chicago pick plus $40 million in cap to get a just a first round swap?

    Weak
    Yes the Spurs traded away the next Juan Nunez, Siddy Cissoko or Harrison Ingram for Harrison Barnes and an unprotected FRP swap.

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    Yes the Spurs traded away the next Juan Nunez, Siddy Cissoko or Harrison Ingram for Harrison Barnes and an unprotected FRP swap.
    Yeah, given the way the Spurs are treating the second round, I kind of want them to be more aggressive at using them for purposes other than taking bums or selling for cash.

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    Champ may have a relatively low ceiling, but his floor isn't that bad. In fact, I'd venture to say that even today his floor is above Sochan's floor, but Sochan's ceiling is much higher.
    💯

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    Another great move from Brian Wright.

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    I'm with Chinook in thinking the Spurs gave the Bulls back their 2025 second round pick. The other second in the trade could be from the Spurs too.
    Changes the grade from an A+ to a B+ in that case. That Bulls '25 2nd is great value tbh.

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    The Spurs have wasted 2nds for the last several years since Tre (including this year's in a good player like Furphy). I don't trust them to find value outside of the lottery (frankly outside of the top 5) anymore so turning those 2nds into actual guys that can help the roster is fine by me tbh.

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    Changes the grade from an A+ to a B+ in that case. That Bulls '25 2nd is great value tbh.
    Probably not.

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    Furphy might be a fine prospect but so have many Kansas products over the years. Embid has been great. A few role players and a lot of duds that transitioned into the pros Kansas. I will be surprised if he turns out to be anything special.

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    Besides, I can’t stop hearing the voice of Dave Chappelle in his Rick James character saying the name “Johnny Furphy” like he would for the name “Charlie Murphy.”

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    Besides, I can’t stop hearing the voice of Dave Chappelle in his Rick James character saying the name “Johnny Furphy” like he would for the name “Charlie Murphy.”
    Lol I was yelling that during the draft.

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    Interesting: Im wondering if it’s just mechanics or if SA has another deal lined up which will clear the requisite cap space before execution of the Barnes deal?


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    Interesting: Im wondering if it’s just mechanics or if SA has another deal lined up which will clear the requisite cap space before execution of the Barnes deal?

    I've seen message board numbercrunchers indicate that they're actually in good shape and don't need to move anybody. Situation's confusing.

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    I believe they waive those players and resign them when they clear waivers, which would be likely.

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    I believe they waive those players and resign them when they clear waivers, which would be likely.
    Sure - but why not go ahead and just do that if you have to do it anyways when you did Cedi + Barlow? Unless you have something lined up to where you do not need to rescind their QO’s?

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    My gut says that Mamu will be back based on nothing but the way he and Vic vibe. That’s enough for me tbh.
    You know who else was really good at the end of a trash season? Zach Collins.

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