Jazz didn't show any sign of wanting him to stay. You can tell by the fact that they haven't signed any decent free agent yet. That clearly indicated that Jazz wants to crash tank.
its not a question about whether or not we hit the tax number, its a question of whether the trade is legal if the salaries dont sufficiently match. the one here where we get collins and lauri for keldon and zollins is not an nba legal trade because we receive too much salary back (without having cap space to absorb the difference)
with that said, kinda wild that john collins is younger than Markkanen
It worked in ESPN NBA Trade Machine.
Trade machine likely isn't updated for Paul/Barnes moves.
Before Barnes, that trade could have worked. Now it doesn't.
We can easily match the salary by adding Tre.
Or Jeremy and Malaki.
If taking their Collins lowers the price and adding Tre or Jeremy lowers it even more, it's a no brainer, tbh.
Obviously we'd be in Knicks/Pacers situation with OG/Siakam, but these deals aren't made without a promise for extension.
Cap is projected to rise by another $14M next summer, having Collins on the books wouldn't be an issue when it comes to extending Lauri.
You can't take back that much more salary than you send when you don't have cap space, which the Spurs don't after trading for Barnes and signing Paul.
Sooo is the buzz dead?
ESPN Trade Machine hasn't updated in a few days. They still have Graham on the Spurs and don't have Barnes or Paul there yet.
Their offer is Wiggins. Utah wants Kuminga.
Nope Spurs can still trade for Markannen, they just can't absorb him into cap space any more. Easiest ways to match salary would be Keldon or Collins, though they could do it in aggregate with something like Tre, Sochan, and Branham (though would hate giving up Tre and Sochan unless Utah is willing to take less picks).
Not updated to reflect CP or Barnes and our complete lack of cap room now.
Utah won't get Kuminga and GSW's unprotected post-Curry picks (assuming they can square their 2030 draft situation away first). If they want those picks they're taking Wiggins. Same way they're taking Collins or Keldon and not Vassell if they want say two of the Atlanta picks and the picks to control Minnesota's 2030 and 2031 draft.
Someone in Warriors front office needs to be an adult and put an end to Markkanen nonsense.
He's not a great fit there. You don't want him at SF, but Draymond can't play C at this age and dwith all the size around the conference.
They're a play-in team as of now, trading all of your picks away when Steph has just a couple of years left would be idiotic. Their best case scenario is still a first round exit.
I'd say that if they're dumb enough to re-negotiate and remove protections from that '30 pick so they have three FRPs to trade, Ainge is going to take the offer.
Three unprotected post-Steph FRPs are gold.
But I don't think they're dumb enough to make that move.
Markkanen needs a great rim protector, not a good fit anywhere else.
Lakers, Thunder, Heat and Spurs are the best destinations for him.
Thunder made their moves and aren't interested because of all the impending max contracts.
Lakers and Heat have nothing to offer.
Leaving us with poorly ran teams and Spurs trying to outsmart Ainge.
Like what was Markkanen going to do in Sacramento with Sabonis "protecting" the rim?
I understand that, but Kuminga doesn't work salary wise UNLESS the Warriors are still allowed to aggregate players (not sure if they are). I know they are hard capped at the first apron.
On top of that there is no reason to trade for Markannen if they're mortgaging both their future and their present.
I don't believe the Spurs would need to add on anyone else - they could just send out Keldon or Collins, because they can take back 125% of what they send out. Keldon actually makes more than Lauri this year ($19MM vs $18MM for Lauri) and Collin's $16.7 works as well.
Spurs COULD send out more (like Tre or Sochan or anyone else) because Utah can absorb that into cap space.
I was using Tre + Sochan + Branham as an example if they said no to Keldon or Collins as the salary back, assuming this trade doesn't happen right away while the Jazz would still have capspace.
If the Warriors were willing to send out Kuminga AND they are allowed to still aggregate players, then the only combinations that work are Kuminga + Looney or Kuminga + GPII. Kuminga + Moody wouldn't be enough salary going out.
Gotcha. $14.4MM is the number over the cap teams have to get to to make it legal and take back Lauri. So the Spurs could do Tre + Sochan (plus whatever else) and have it work.
Beyond that it would get messy. Jeremy + Branham + Champ + Blake/Bassey (only one of them required) + Sidy would work... but Utah ain't taking back 5 scrubs, and if the Spurs have to waive Champ and Bassey to make Barnes work, that's off the table.
David Locke on today's Locked on Jazz touched on reports that the Jazz were backing off on trading Markkannen. The only thing that I thought was noteworthy among the talk of the Kings pursuit being over because they refused to include Keegan Murray was the Athletic report that Ainge, Zanuck, and Markkannen are all on the same page and in lock step and such
Could be more ainge smoke, but if it's true that Markkannen is in the loop and on the same page as them, it seems unlikely he would demand the Spurs and only the Spurs
I want to send Branham out in any trade possible tbh
I did the math and if the Spurs throw in one of Mal or Blake they could afford Lauri and JC even after the CP3 Barnes deals.
Thanks for putting in the work for us and listening to Locked On Jazz.
I don't think any player, aside from maybe some French national with a connection to Wemby, is ever going to do a Dame move and request a trade to ONLY us.
Lauri does seem like the kind of guy to be willing to suck it up, suffer through another tank, and stay loyal to a team like Utah. I just still can't understand why this makes sense for the Jazz. They really need to bottom out unless they are hoping they'll land their #1 (Lauri is not a #1, I agree with that - but he is an ideal #2) by aggregating promising young players and draft picks. But let's be honest... true #1s are getting traded or moving around, aside from Durant. All the other disgruntled superstar trades have been for #2 or AT BEST #1b type of guys (Dame, Mitc , Gobert, Harden, Kyrie, Bridges, PG, Siakam, OG, etc).
The only TRUE #1 players who moved that I can think of are KD, AD and Kawhi. But I don't see Luka, Ant, Giannis, Embiid, Jokic, Wemby, Shai, Tatum or Steph (my list of true #1 stars in the NBA) asking for a trade anytime soon... and it ain't gonna be to ing Utah
Yeah I don't think they're really trying to trade him right now. He's a good player for them to hold onto so really doesn't make much sense for them to ship him out and I doubt any light offer is going to get things done.
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