The Sacramento Kings have agreed on a sign-and-trade that will land DeMar DeRozan on a three-year deal, send Harrison Barnes to the San Antonio Spurs and Chris Duarte, two second-round picks and cash to the Chicago Bulls.

[J_Paco]

Way too reasonable and measured of a take for Spursralk.

Not just a reasonable take, but exactly why you bring in a veteran like CP3. Branham was so-so last season (mostly inconsistent and his confidence wavered), but Wesley was much improved over his horrendous rookie season. Both need to make a major leap to stay long-term, but with Paul's + Vassell's injury history, plus Castle being a rookie (who can theoretically play 1 - 3, the Spurs need depth.

[J_Paco]

Branham has a future in the league, maybe not with the Spurs, but has one.

I don't think people remember how Wesley was constantly driving into traffic and getting swatted time and again. Much discussion last summer about if he could ever improve on this. And he did. By the end of the year he was locating shooters and using the paint better.

Branham had two big things I wanted to see from him, 1) launch whenever open from three, and 2) stay engaged and work harder on defense. He improved on both things.

It's a SpursTalk thing, but I see it among some of the worst Reddit members. Nobody has any memory. Nobody knows enough about basketball to see development. , nobody really remembers the good players this franchise has developed over the years.

It's kind of pathetic, and the reason why I get so charged about people here. There are good commentators, but then there are too many who should be supporters of the worst franchises, like the Hornets, because they barely understand anything about this team or its history.

Not saying Branham or Wesley will turn into anything, but seriously a lot of people here have the brains of earthworms. Just complete nonsense and pointless.

Preach.

This forum - as much as I enjoy talking Spurs basketball - is full of numerous numbskulls & trolls that just parrot each other.

"Blake Wesley can"t pass," yet he had a good assist-to-turnover ratio & the second best assist percentage (25.3%) on the team.

[Chinook]

After checking the CBA, Spurs team salary is allowed to be $250K over the cap after the trade.

By looking at Realgm trade machine (they have access to the NBA salary database), it seems that Paul salary is around $10.5M.

So:
- If Barnes waive his trade bonus, waiving Bassey should be enough to do the trade.
- If Barnes keep his trade bonus, waiving Bassey and salary dumping Cissoko will work.
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If the Spurs are allowed to aggregate Barnes immediately if they're over the cap but still used cap space to acquire Barnes? The common framing tends to be below or above the cap, but I think the actual splitting point is using an exception or not.

[scott]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[timtonymanu]

Expected, tbh. Sucks he got injured cause I wanted to see him get playing time last year.

[Bruno]

If the Spurs are allowed to aggregate Barnes immediately if they're over the cap but still used cap space to acquire Barnes? The common framing tends to be below or above the cap, but I think the actual splitting point is using an exception or not.

I'm quite sure they are. The $250K leeway exist to make the cap space as good as TPE (that have a $250K leeway).

[scott]

Spurs social media team got the old 2008 Macbook to fire up this time to do a photoshop of Barnes jersey

[ace3g]

[ace3g]

[Chinook]

I guess two-ways count as touches. Seems SA kept their second-rounders then, making this off-season even weirder.

[scott]

Glad to hear we plan on bringing Bassey back. So long as that happens, I'll go ahead and give this offseason an A

[scott]

I guess two-ways count as touches. Seems SA kept their second-rounders then, making this off-season even weirder.

Wright and co. deeply studying the Applebee's menu, knowing that they've got more SRPs to sell

[Chinook]

The issue with Bassey coming back is the team needs center depth and he should still be out with his injury. I guess with Gray gone, there's a two-way spot they can use. But it'll have to be on an actual third-dtring center.

[DPG21920]

I guess two-ways count as touches. Seems SA kept their second-rounders then, making this off-season even weirder.

Incredible job by SA navigating this. NO additional seconds sent out and they keep Champs. Just job well done man.

[Bruno]

So:
- Paul took less than $11M to make the deal work.
- Barnes renounced to his trade bonus to make the deal work.
- Second round picks Chicago is getting are coming from Sacramento.
- Using Gray to make the touch rule work is damn smart.


What a great trade...

[DPG21920]

So:
- Paul took less than $11M to make the deal work.
- Barnes renounced to his trade bonus to make the deal work.
- Second round picks Chicago is getting are coming from Sacramento.
- Using Gray to make the touch rule work is damn smart.


What a great trade...

Seriously. Just top notch work.

[Robz4000]

So:
- Paul took less than $11M to make the deal work.
- Barnes renounced to his trade bonus to make the deal work.
- Second round picks Chicago is getting are coming from Sacramento.
- Using Gray to make the touch rule work is damn smart.


What a great trade...

Back to an A+

[Chinook]

I think it speaks very highly of the Spurs' standing with players thay Graham extended his guarantee date for free, Paul took less money and Barnes waived his kicker. It's nice to see that "doing right by the player" at ude reciprocated

[exstatic]

PATFO suuuuucks! They didn’t do exactly what I waaaaanted!

-ST

Top notch transaction.

[BatManu20]

So:
- Paul took less than $11M to make the deal work.
- Barnes renounced to his trade bonus to make the deal work.
- Second round picks Chicago is getting are coming from Sacramento.
- Using Gray to make the touch rule work is damn smart.


What a great trade...

Where Brian Wright was right. Good tbh. Great work by PATFO.

[scott]

Yep, good trade for the Spurs. Still think it is weird they sacrificed the 2025 cap space they allegedly were trying to preserve, but I didn't think it was worth preserving anyway... so I'm all for an upgrade like Barnes to the roster. A+ trade. Offseason is just one specific move away from an A+ overall for the offseason (right now I'd say it's a C+/B-)

[DPG21920]

So 2 open roster spots full time in addition to the open 2-ways. Im guessing Mamu + Bassey for those spots is most likely? Really happy SA got to keep Julian.

[DPG21920]

I think it speaks very highly of the Spurs' standing with players thay Graham extended his guarantee date for free, Paul took less money and Barnes waived his kicker. It's nice to see that "doing right by the player" at ude reciprocated

Damn straight. I felt for a while SA was not getting anything in return; we were getting our coaches poached, FA weren’t choosing SA etc…these are small items you mentioned but overall its really great to see.

[DPG21920]

Yep, good trade for the Spurs. Still think it is weird they sacrificed the 2025 cap space they allegedly were trying to preserve, but I didn't think it was worth preserving anyway... so I'm all for an upgrade like Barnes to the roster. A+ trade. Offseason is just one specific move away from an A+ overall for the offseason (right now I'd say it's a C+/B-)

And while you are technically right on the 25 cap space since Barnes is a guarantee there, I dont think it functionally blocks much since even outside of them maybe not even needing the space, I believe they could cheaply pivot of that money if needed even if it cost a 2nd or 2 to dump him.

[scott]

And while you are technically right on the 25 cap space since Barnes is a guarantee there, I dont think it functionally blocks much since even outside of them maybe not even needing the space, I believe they could cheaply pivot of that money if needed even if it cost a 2nd or 2 to dump him.

I agree and I believe cap space is generally overrated, so I don't care about it... I just think it's odd that it was reported that the Spurs cared but then they did this deal anyway. Makes me think the Spurs know better than to overrate cap space, but it's a handy excuse when they want to prep the fanbase for disappointment