P.U., they stunk, plain and simple.
If you care about second rounders as roster assets, you’re doing it wrong. Examine those two seasons, and take that to the bank as the pattern going forward. They’ll sell/trade the first one, and the second will most likely be a two way. We have almost too many FIRST rounders to roster. Second rounders would really have virtually no chance.
Exactly exstatic.
The primary utility of 2nd rounders is to facilitate trades (like the Graham salary dump, or as a contribution to the Harrison Barnes pickup) or to fill out the 2-ways. But to actually grab rosterable players? Pretty unusual. Dejuan Blair and Tre Jones are good examples of players that were drafted and immediately joined the main club and contributed. But their experiences are very atypical.
Couldn't they have drafted Furphy, let him play in the summer league and showcase him to other teams, then trade him (or is this not allowed?). If Indiana gave him that big of a contract, I wonder if they would have given more had they seen him play well in the SL for the Spurs.
it seems we are getting second rounders just to sale them.We are just cheap and dont want to develop players anymore.Indiana got
the pick from us cause they are willing to pay and try to develop furphy.Guess will see how that goes in a couple of years.
For a team that has sucked as much as the Spurs have for almost the entire decade, one would think their summer league team would be way better than it is. At what point should we worry about PATFO's inability to detect talent and, at the very least, not have the absolute worse summer league roster in the entire NBA by a huge distance? I remember some years ago when we had intersting prospects playing in these tournaments. Now even draft picks are completely underwhelming. Recent 2nd round picks have been atrocious, they need to get their head out of their asses and start doing a better job at selecting 2nd round talent, tbh.
Exstatic is right about our roster crunch. We got Wemby on essentially our first deliberate Tank season, which was really lucky, but the FO was not planning based on that stroke of luck. So they have ac ulated many extra FRP's in the next three or so seasons. These get guaranteed contracts and roster spots. Unless we spend some on a major trade (eg Markkannen), we are pretty much full up on rookies for the immediate future. Thus, second round picks are a) trade bait or b) Draft and Stash, or c) close to unusable...
Which is why the Furphy thing doesn't bother me a bit. They definitely didn't want to give him a roster spot and ~$3 million of our cap space. I'm pretty sure Nunez was our target anyways, as he (I suspect) had already agreed to a draft and stash strategy. Trading down to get an extra $1 million out of Indy was just good business. The other thing we should be exploring is any kind of a deal to push seconds into future assets; 5 or 6 SRP's in the next few drafts in return for their 2031 FRP would be a great deal for us, and would give them some picks to fill bench slots on the cheap...
like dillingham, its probably the case that they picked Furphy specifically for Indiana. not necessarily the case that they were going to take Furphy for themselves and only then agreed to move him to IndyFurphy was literally picked by them and was a good fit for this roster but of course they cheaped out
this is why taking Cissoko was poor planning. aside from the whole "he cant shoot" thing... they took a player at the beck end of the second round who wasnt eligible for a two-way deal. i mean sure we can waive him if we wanted to but his money for this year is guaranteed
Once I saw that Castle wasnt playing I quickly made the decision this game wasnt for me.
Seems like a top notch decision was made. This team is awful and only Castle makes this even remotely palatable to watch.
On one hand, I think a lot of the criticism is valid because the choices for this roster are pretty bad. Going with seven short guards and no tall centers is weird. Too many players who have no hope of even sniffing the NBA.
On the other hand, the Spurs were out arguably their five best summer league prospects: Castle, Cissoko, Duke, Gray and Minix. You take the top five players off any summer league team and it gets gross fast.
Would you rather draft and cut them? Because, I assure you, that’s what would happen if we selected all of the SRPs. We likely can’t even roster all of the first rounders we have in the chute.
. You people are like the kid you take to the pet store for a puppy, and they want ALL of the puppies.
Even accepting your argument, the Spurs haven't done very well with their later second round picks.
Last year they could have had GG Jackson at #44. Memphis took him at #45 as a two way as you suggest (although admittedly he didn't last as a two way, he ended up 2nd Team NBA All Rookie).
In other words, just because you resign yourself to two ways later in the second round doesn't mean you have to choose bad ones, like the Spurs have.
why would i draft a player just to cut them.If they are flat out bad and dont have potential and not improving,Yeah cut their ass obviously.Would you rather draft and cut them? Because, I assure you, that’s what would happen if we selected all of the SRPs. We likely can’t even roster all of the first rounders we have in the chute.
But if they are decent and keep em like we did with tre jones.Its not that complicated my guy.
It’s like these guys have never seen money all before. We’re the Oakland A’s.
This franchise roster construction has been bad for years now. And it isn’t getting any better. Furphy was the perfect second round type pick. He had an elite skill in shooting and was 6’8”. But we wanted the 6’5” wing who can’t shoot.
It’s time for Pop to retire and for a change at GM.
You basically know that - Branham sucks, Wesley sucks, Cissoko sucks, Ingram sucks, I will be very surprised Nunez will play in NBA at all.
Noone from this SL roster would be anywhere near g-league.
You have to put a roster, but come on, this team should be young and there is noone in 15-20 place in organisation worth developing.
Also...no one gives a about the Cali Classic. Pretty much a glorified pick-up game
Hopefully we come correct in Vegas.
Relax guys. Save your bile for the regular season.
They were never going to choose GG. He has an absolute reputation.
Summer league rosters aren’t for development. They are warm bodies to put out on the court around the 1-3 players you ARE looking to develop.
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No wonder no one would tell me where Gray was and/or why he wasn't playing. I couldn't figure out what could possibly make it a top secret. I halfway thought he Primo'ed someone by how suddenly it was like he never existed. Turns out, the Spurs were just using a loophole by trading a two-way player in order to satisfy the new "touch" rule in trades. Pretty brilliant, tbh
But outside Castle, who was selected with 4 OA, there is noone worth developing. I dont care about SL results, the roster put there is just so bad and would make me thinking about whole scouting department.
Did you not even read the first sentence of the post you quoted?
Yes, I understood that, but later you wrote about looking for players to develop later on. There is noone like this there, Castle should be taken as far as they could from this team.
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