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    You want me to have answers to scenarios .
    "I have no idea why a rich billionaire would leave so many messages about appointments and trips with a famous child sex trafficker"




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    What's funny is once again you pretend to be in that inner circle. You're not even in the echelon of poor millionaires bro so who the do you actually think you are?

    You want me to have answers to scenarios you've made up in your mind. Harp all you'd like on JE and Trump but have that same energy for the rest of the sickos in that circle bro. I don't have answers for you and I don't play into make believe scenarios. You're lost like so many others in your lib ideology unfortunately.

    The only clown here is you bro. Go back to playing with barbies and stop with your political nonsense already.

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    "I have no idea why a rich billionaire would leave so many messages about appointments and trips with a famous child sex trafficker"






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    Did anyone else also notice that the prosecutor that derailed charges for Epstein got a Trump cabinet level appointment?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta

    In 2008, U.S. attorney Acosta approved a federal non-prosecution agreement[2] with Jeffrey Epstein. That secret agreement, conducted without consulting the victims, was later ruled illegal by a federal judge for violating the Crime Victims' Rights Act.[25]

    In March 2005, the Palm Beach Police Department began a 13-month undercover investigation of Epstein, including a search of his home, based on reports that he was involved with sex trafficking of minors.[26][27] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigation resulted in a 53-page indictment in June 2007.[26]

    Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, agreed to a plea deal,[28] to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". That agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment.

    In 2017, Acosta was nominated for Secretary of Labor. His handling of the Epstein case was discussed as part of his confirmation hearing.

    On November 28, 2018, as rumors circulated that Acosta was being considered as a possible successor to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Miami Herald published an investigation detailing Acosta's role in the Epstein case.

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    Did anyone else also notice that the prosecutor that derailed charges for Epstein got a Trump cabinet level appointment?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta

    In 2008, U.S. attorney Acosta approved a federal non-prosecution agreement[2] with Jeffrey Epstein. That secret agreement, conducted without consulting the victims, was later ruled illegal by a federal judge for violating the Crime Victims' Rights Act.[25]

    In March 2005, the Palm Beach Police Department began a 13-month undercover investigation of Epstein, including a search of his home, based on reports that he was involved with sex trafficking of minors.[26][27] Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) investigation resulted in a 53-page indictment in June 2007.[26]

    Acosta, then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, agreed to a plea deal,[28] to grant immunity from all federal criminal charges to Epstein, along with four named co-conspirators and any unnamed "potential co-conspirators". That agreement "essentially shut down an ongoing FBI probe into whether there were more victims and other powerful people who took part in Epstein's sex crimes". At the time, this halted the investigation and sealed the indictment.

    In 2017, Acosta was nominated for Secretary of Labor. His handling of the Epstein case was discussed as part of his confirmation hearing.

    On November 28, 2018, as rumors circulated that Acosta was being considered as a possible successor to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Miami Herald published an investigation detailing Acosta's role in the Epstein case.
    Clinton too.

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    If A occurs 9 years before B, any putative causation would be tenuous absent other information, but it might not be zero...which is another way if saying it might be zero.

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    Similarly, the dismissed sex assault lawsuit against DJT is perfectly lurid and perfectly plausible, totally in keeping with his self-presentation. Problem is, the person making the complaint retracted it. Legally speaking, there's no controversy.

    Politically there used to be accountability on the Republican side for breaking the law, the current fashion seems to be to ascribe all legal consequences to partisan lawfare.

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    Republicans used to ditch candidates merely for being immoral or breaking the law.

    Now, it kinda depends.

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    If A occurs 9 years before B, any putative causation would be tenuous absent other information, but it might not be zero...which is another way if saying it might be zero.
    That is exactly what I thought. Doubtful it was any kind of direct quid pro quo, but if Trump bribed the guy at the time, and is still beholden to him on a blackmail basis, it could have been an "I will keep quiet" ask when Trump stumbled into the presidency.

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    Republicans used to ditch candidates merely for being immoral or breaking the law.
    Now, it kinda depends.
    I think you could have stopped after the word "law".

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    That is exactly what I thought. Doubtful it was any kind of direct quid pro quo, but if Trump bribed the guy at the time, and is still beholden to him on a blackmail basis, it could have been an "I will keep quiet" ask when Trump stumbled into the presidency.
    DJT presents many targets, for better and possibly for worse, being a sex pest doesn't seem to be a political vulnerability for him.

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    gee i wonder why Epstein got offed.

    What i really wonder is how the is Giselle Maxwell still alive?

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    Trump was raised, as many of us were, in the teeny bop phase of Anglophone pop culture. Some people think of that as the good old days.

    People admire Trump for being a creepy old todger.

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    They also admire Trump for breaking the law so long as he gets away with it.

    SCOTUS had to swoop in with an ad hoc, advisory, expansive reading of executive immunity to forestall sentencing -- Trump in jail would dispel his saintly halo of impunity.

    Trump in jail orange would forever be a loser.

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    Trump was raised, as many of us were, in the teeny bop phase of Anglophone pop culture. Some people think of that as the good old days.

    People admire Trump for being a creepy old todger.
    That's what we was taught, sold, baited and awarded. (We) still are. Commerce wouldn't give that up, Winester, for all the rice in China.

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    They also admire Trump for breaking the law so long as he gets away with it.

    SCOTUS had to swoop in with an ad hoc, advisory, expansive reading of executive immunity to forestall sentencing -- Trump in jail would dispel his saintly halo of impunity.

    Trump in jail orange would forever be a loser.
    He learned that from you fellows. Sure, he wanted to go there, but, you made it so much easier trying to murder him Day One. "Oh, you want to play that-a-way, eh? No problem."

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    ^^^loser talk

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    Welcome back, son. I missed our little clandestine talks.

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    gee i wonder why Epstein got offed.

    What i really wonder is how the is Giselle Maxwell still alive?
    Because she doesn't know where the tapes are. or says she doesn't.

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    They also admire Trump for breaking the law so long as he gets away with it.

    SCOTUS had to swoop in with an ad hoc, advisory, expansive reading of executive immunity to forestall sentencing -- Trump in jail would dispel his saintly halo of impunity.

    Trump in jail orange would forever be a loser.
    I found that absolutely shocking. Just the idea that we have an unaccountable king should be enough to make any real conservative itchy.

    That is how you know you have gone over to pure fascism.

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    Because she doesn't know where the tapes are. or says she doesn't.
    Think Bill Clinton.

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    DJT presents many targets, for better and possibly for worse, being a sex pest doesn't seem to be a political vulnerability for him.
    ironic given the Q movement. pizzagate was supposed to be about protecting the childrens.

    Just another in a long line of hypocritical and conflicting fascist positions.

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    ironic given the Q movement. pizzagate was supposed to be about protecting the childrens.

    Just another in a long line of hypocritical and conflicting fascist positions.
    That's only because Trump made President when he was forbidden to do so, RG.

    Trump did that.

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    maybe because of this?

    Case 1:16-cv-07673-RA Do ent 4 Filed 10/03/16 Page 4 of 10


    10. Defendant Trump initiated sexual contact with Plaintiff at four different parties.On the fourth and final sexual encounter with Defendant Trump, Defendant Trump tied Plaintiffto a bed, exposed himself to Plaintiff, and then proceeded to forcibly rape Plaintiff. During thecourse of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop butwith no effect. Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff’s pleas by violently striking Plaintiff inthe face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted. Exhs. A andB.11. Immediately following this rape, Defendant Trump threatened Plaintiff that, wereshe ever to reveal any of the details of the sexual and physical abuse of her by Defendant Trump,Plaintiff and her family would be physically harmed if not killed. Exhs. A and B.

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