Nope, been over this too many times. The Express News spelled out that it was NOT Salaun.
Saluan was too good for you nerds, anyways.
It's this one. They came to a consensus on a player in their war room three days before the draft. They were about to take this player when Minnesota called. It's impossible that it was Salaun as he was already picked.
https://www.expressnews.com/sports/s...l-19547166.php
thanks. it doesnt necessarily mean that salaun wouldnt have been atop their board if he was available. but with the knowledge that he was gone, they had to decide who to take at 8 in the event a trade didnt materialize. then when a trade presented itself they took it.
Yes, exactly. They wanted Salaun and he wasn’t available. Period.
No, it literally says that the player they picked three days before was the one they were going to pick at 8. It cannot be Salaun. You can choose not to believe the article. That's one thing. But the information it provides is not debatable. It straightaway says that the player they decided on was available and they were going to take him.
Like, no. It's impossible unless you're just adding wild scenarios that are not in the text. The text, as is, is 100% clear. It CANNOT have been Salaun. You're just making things up. If I was your freshman teacher, I'd fail you.
nah, you are misreading the article
3 nights earlier from saturday... aka the night of the draft. not 3 nights before the draft. they couldnt decide 3 nights before the draft who would or wouldnt be available at 8Underneath a table on the practice court at Victory Capital Performance Center on Saturday morning, two crisp new white jerseys sat folded and waiting for the fourth and 48th overall selections in the 2024 NBA draft.
There was not a jersey for the No. 8 pick.
But there could have been one. And there almost was.
Three nights earlier, in a room not far from that practice court, all the members of the Spurs’ brain trust sat around a different table and came to a consensus. They were ready to draft a player at No. 8. They’d agreed on a prospect. And they were prepared to keep him. But with seconds ticking away just before their pick was due, they received exactly the kind of offer they hoped would materialize Wednesday. The Minnesota Timberwolves wanted the Spurs’ selection, and they were willing to give up an unprotected 2031 first-rounder and the right to swap first-rounders in 2030 to get it.
Someone already pointed out to your dumb, illiterate ass that you are reading this incorrectly, which you are.
Here is what the article says:
They are talking about 3 nights earlier from Saturday... which was Wednesday, when the draft took place.Underneath a table on the practice court at Victory Capital Performance Center on Saturday morning, two crisp new white jerseys sat folded and waiting for the fourth and 48th overall selections in the 2024 NBA draft.
There was not a jersey for the No. 8 pick.
But there could have been one.
And there almost was.
Three nights earlier, in a room not far from that practice court, all the members of the Spurs’ brain trust sat around a different table and came to a consensus. They were ready to draft a player at No. 8. They’d agreed on a prospect. And they were prepared to keep him.
But with seconds ticking away just before their pick was due, they received exactly the kind of offer they hoped would materialize Wednesday. The Minnesota Timberwolves wanted the Spurs’ selection, and they were willing to give up an unprotected 2031 first-rounder and the right to swap first-rounders in 2030 to get it.
Anyone with a third grade education can interpret this: On Draft night, they came to a consensus on who to pick at #8, but right before their pick was due, the offer from MIN came in. None of this has anything to do with Salaun.
Uhh yeah you’re not convincing anybody with this. I don’t know why you intend on misleading people with this misinformation.
Damn, that's right. The whole thing is so badly written. I didn't think of what days the draft actually was.
So, yeah, there's some possibility that they wanted Salaun, but that's not indicated here. Anyone who makes claims that they wanted Salaun is just making their own assumptions. They could have just as easily have wanted Holland or Clingan. Most likely they were just making sure they agreed on the pick and none of those three players were it.
It's important to remember that the Spurs put the #8 pick up for sale well before the draft happened. They weren't in love with anyone they thought would be available.
It's important to know teams secure trades in principle before the draft so they don't have to work on a framework during the 10-minute period. The Spurs probably had trade contingencies we couldn't even imagine, whether that be trading up, down, into or out of. It's true that the Spurs likely had an idea they'd trade the pick unless something unlikely occurred. That doesn't mean they didn't have guys they liked. They seemed to really value the return they got. I imagine if their only trade option involved them accepting a lesser package might've looked at their board more favorably.
It would be interesting to hear from someone in the room all the wargaming scenarios they came up with.
Yep, there are very likely some potential major trades that we don't realize were really close to happening. I don't believe anyone thought Minny had any chance of a top-10 pick. If Salaun or whomever did fall to eight, and the Spurs picked them, and the later we heard some Minny beat writer suggest there was a trade discussed for the Wolves to jump up into the top 10, we'd probably roll our eyes. I believe there are similar trades like that discussed all the time that end up not happening, and we usually have no idea what they entail and what conditions would have made them happen.
It's been suggested the Spurs and Pacers had a trade planned out in 2010 but that Indy backed out after Granger gave his endorsement to George. That rumor only doesn't seem dumb because the Spurs moved up the next year for Kawhi with the same team.
During the "Muh Touches" era, we heard the Spurs had discussions about trading Aldridge but couldn't get a top 10 pick for him. Is that because Aldridge never had that value or because the 2017 draft (which was full of trades) didn't break down in a way that the planned trades happened?
As an example of a hypothetical scenario: The Spurs had a deal in place with Miami that they'd draft Buzelis or Williams at 15 and the Spurs would send CHA25, CHI25 and take back Duncan Robinson. However, since neither of those guys made it to Miami's pick, the Spurs decided to forgo getting back into the first, and the Heat ended up taking Ware. I have no evidence that occurred and am not suggesting it was ever discussed. It's just an example of a path that could've led to a very different off-season that would be completely hard to tell ever had a chance to exist because we didn't hear it was a possibility.
A second example: The Spurs and Kings worked out a deal for the Spurs to drop from 8 to 13 and take on Barnes in exchange for a 2031 unprotected first. The plan was for the Spurs to take Da Silva or Knecht (whom they liked at 8 in this scenario but valued the Minny package more than) at 13. But then the Kings heard through the grapevine that no one between 8 and 12 wanted Carter and decided to back out and risk it.
The draft is just filled with stuff like that. The GM's will often say "We had offers to move but decided to stand pat", and this is what that talk often means.
Last edited by Chinook; 07-09-2024 at 11:44 PM.
Of the article Is reliable, what Is written, plain and simple, Is that:
A) not before the draft but during the draft, when was their turn to communicate the player of their choice, they all had decided the player number 8;
B) before the draft they made know tò the Nba world the Price of the Number 8 pick;
C) seconds before they called Nba for the choice they received the Minnesota call the the wolves agreed tò the price;
D) so Spurs called Nba and told them about the tradend the name that Minnesota wanted (Dillingham);
E) the Minnesota name was probably different from the name Spurs had in mind to call for themselves;
F) obviously the name Spurs were about tò call was the one of a player available seconds before their pick;
G) this means said player wasnt someone already drafted (so its impossibile the article was talking of Salaun, Clingan or Holland);
H) the player SA would have drafted for themselves was probably someone drafted Just some picks later (chences are on names like Edey, Carter, Buzelis, Topic or Williams).
I think they always talk to teams about their picks. Wouldn’t surprise me if they talked to teams about #4. The important thing to remember is that this was not a pre-arranged deal where SA would trade the pick if the player Minny wanted was there. The Spurs were on the clock, and by all accounts had a player they were ready to select when Minnesota called with the offer.
And who could refuse such an offer! Minny really backed up the Brinks truck for Dilly lol
One of the things in the new CBA that is causing the demise of super teams is their lack of ability to acquire good cheap talent. That good cheap talent comes from high draft picks. Minnesota has been a poverty franchise for most of their existence, and Gobert, Conley will age out, and they’ve been shopping KAT for 2-3 years so he’ll be gone, too. They’ll likely offload Ant when he comes up for a Supermax, and be back to their normal hot garbage selves.
Our 2030 pick has both the Minnesota and Dallas swaps attached, so it will be a best pick of three. That will be when Wemby is 26. The 20131 pick will be when Wemby is 27. That’s the exact time we’ll need a fresh infusion of talent. Even if we pull a trade for Markannen, we won’t want to pay him at that point. He’ll be 34, and eligible for a zillion dollars, which would gut your roster and drop you out of contention for a le.
Young cheap talent. That’s the key to a sustainable run.
No. They had decided on a player to pick and keep WITH SALAUN ALREADY OFF THE BOARD, and then Minny called. Period.
I see Dilly as young cheap talent. I understand a lot of people arent sold on him. We shall see soon enough.
Hypothetically, couldn't they have offloaded Wesley and Branham in a trade, and been able to still acquire Paul/Barnes while also picking someone at 8?
I'm confused. If you guys are right, then doesn't that mean that it couldn't have been Salaun, which means that Mr. Body, even if he didn't get the timing right, was correct it wasn't Salaun?nah, you are misreading the article
3 nights earlier from saturday... aka the night of the draft. not 3 nights before the draft. they couldnt decide 3 nights before the draft who would or wouldnt be available at 8
Last edited by Uriel; 07-10-2024 at 09:06 AM.
But yes, I agree, that article was vaguely worded and poorly written (although I suspect quite deliberately).
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