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    I work with a few Sixers fans who seem think that the FO deferred heavily to Rivers on the minor personnel moves like Bassey and Champ (those two guys are in fact the only reason I bother to ask him about the rationale of the FO), but in any event - this is a good point. Was Brand already GM at that time?
    Keeping in mind the disdain many have for Rivers and how it could cloud judgement, it's reasonable to think someone of his stature would have had more say than a less established coach, but Morey was/is an established name himself and would have still had the final say.

    Yeah, Brand was the GM at the time.

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    Usually coaches have some la ude in cutting players. The front office brings guys in, the coaches keep the ones they want. That balance is obviously skewed in the NBA where most contracts are guaranteed. But I don't think Morey made the decision on Bassey, whether he signed the paperwork or not. Like for the Spurs, they will bring in a few bubble players this year, be it two-ways, non-guaranteeds or camp deals. It will be Pop's decision as the coach which make it rather than Wright, RC or even Pop as POBO.

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    Probably the most likely scenario was that is was a collaborative decision. Championship contenders are generally going to skew older/more proven, especially at a position where the best player is injury prone and the prospects in question weren't exactly of the can't miss variety.

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    From my Sixers co-workers, both guys were similarly situated: young guys who didn't play much. Reed was a second year SRP (pick 58), Bassey was a rookie SRP (pick 53). In Bassey's rookie year, both played in a smattering of games, and averaged about 7 min/game and put up similar stats. Both were also dominant in the G-League for Delaware.

    Before Bassey's second season, Bassey was let go as Reed was picked as the favored young big prospect, because they had to make room for Montrez Harrell. They all seemed miffed why the Sixers went with Reed over Bassey, but that might have only been because I explained my interest in Bassey and they wanted to say something good about him.

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    Love the media saying stuff like DeMar’s going to elevate the Kings team to top 4 team in the West… boy are they going to be disappointed
    For the regular season, I think it's possible. Sabonis and DeMar usually stay healthy.

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    Love the media saying stuff like DeMar’s going to elevate the Kings team to top 4 team in the West… boy are they going to be disappointed
    The Kings were third best in the WC the year before last. It's not impossible.

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    The two picks NY have probably offered are the Washington and Detroit ones. After the Nets trade they don’t have much left. Both are protected and both are unlikely to convey. Two firsts for Kessler lol

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    The two picks NY have probably offered are the Washington and Detroit ones. After the Nets trade they don’t have much left. Both are protected and both are unlikely to convey. Two firsts for Kessler lol
    Agreed. Every bit of news coming about Utah is so predictable it's laughable. "Oh noez! they rejected two picz. We better offer 3!"

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    With Pelicans don't want to give Ingram long term max contract and don't want to lose him for nothing and with Bulls trying to unload Lavine, would you do this trade?

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    He's a great fit next to Wemby as a 3 and player, you could build him to be what KCP was for Denver
    He's an undersized SF with little to no offensive game to speak of. Other than the occasional catch-and-shoot 3 - point, he's practically invisible on that end and was replaced in the rotation by another limited role player in Strus. The Spurs can either slide Castle to the SF or draft a prospect with better potential on offense with more size.

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    That was a really quick about-face on Kessler. He went from a 'building block' to expendable in two seasons, LOL.

    Also, this alleged trade proposal is why I don't like Danny Ainge. Him & Majari have to either 'win' every trade or swindle someone of far too many assets to execute a deal. You are down on Kessler and hurt his value by benching him last season, but want two or more first - round picks to move him? Absurd.
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    That was a really quick about-face on Kessler. He went from a 'building block' to expendable in two seasons, LOL.
    Relegated to the bench and minutes in blowouts but two first round picks is insulting. That's Ainge for you.

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    Kawhi misses staring at his favorite wall for hours on end.

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    OKC owns the LAC pick outright, so... that's great.

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    Relegated to the bench and minutes in blowouts but two first round picks is insulting. That's Ainge for you.
    Totally. It's practically incomprehensible that Ainge thinks he'll get that much draft capital for a guy they no longer value.

    I've heard rumblings on podcasts that Kessler was a 'malcontent' and difficult to coach, but I also feel like that is Utah trying to soothe (public opinion) them souring on a good, young prospect.

    If the Knicks can acquire with giving in to Ainge's ridiculous demands, then he's a near perfect replacement for Hartenstein.

    Also, other than Brad Stevens and Sam Presti has Leon Rose quietly been on of the best GM's the last 3 or 4 seasons. He's been really aggressive in leveraging his talent to get upgrades and getting the next to potential le contender.
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    That's so ed.

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    If only that shot against Phily bounced out, it would've been the best case of karma catching up with a s bag in sports history.

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    Total. It's practically incomprehensible that Ainge thinks he'll get that much draft capital for a guy they no longer value.

    I've heard rumblings on podcasts that Kessler was a 'malcontent' and difficult to coach, but I also feel like that is Utah trying to soothe (public opinion) them souring on a good, young prospect.

    If the Knicks can acquire with giving in to Ainge's ridiculous demands, then he's a near perfect replacement for Hartenstein.

    Also, other than Brad Stevens and Sam Presti has Leon Rose quietly been on of the best GM's the last 3 or 4 seasons. He's been really aggressive in leveraging his talent to get upgrades and getting the next to potential le contender.
    The wheeling and dealing GMs can acquire an envious amount of value, but it comes at a cost. I don't think Barnes would've waived his kicker to make a trade to Utah work, for example. Wright's managed to do very well in trades, but he and the rest of the management/staff deserve a ton of credit for being able to do that while still having a player-friendly culture. Players often don't like being treated like objects, and certain GMs can't see them any other way. Think about how differently the Spurs treat their players, thanking Graham after having him ride the bench for the majority of his time in SA. Kessler very likely feels slighted that he's falling down the rotation so the Jazz can try to pump up the trade value for Collins.

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    The wheeling and dealing GMs can acquire an envious amount of value, but it comes at a cost. I don't think Barnes would've waived his kicker to make a trade to Utah work, for example. Wright's managed to do very well in trades, but he and the rest of the management/staff deserve a ton of credit for being able to do that while still having a player-friendly culture. Players often don't like being treated like objects, and certain GMs can't see them any other way. Think about how differently the Spurs treat their players, thanking Graham after having him ride the bench for the majority of his time in SA. Kessler very likely feels slighted that he's falling down the rotation so the Jazz can try to pump up the trade value for Collins.
    Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Barnes was promised not to be salary dumped next summer and that was one of the reasons he waived his trade kicker.
    He wants to play and compete, as you say he wouldn't have waived it if he was dumped somewhere to be a tank commander.

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    poor bas - still can't even wipe his own ass!



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    Nephew. If not for the Toronto miracle, he would be out of the league

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