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If Castle does end up being the PG of the future, then he might be able to get by without having a reliable 3 pt shot if he manages to develop a pull-up mid-range jumper ala Tony Parker.
Love the kid him saying “All I Do Is Hoop” tells me that he is committed to basketball and will work hard on improving every year. In the NBA everyone has talent the difference is the ones who love the game and willing to put in the long hours in the lab to get better
If Castle does end up being the PG of the future, then he might be able to get by without having a reliable 3 pt shot if he manages to develop a pull-up mid-range jumper ala Tony Parker.
Yeesh. That’s gonna be nasty. TP for a while sucked shooting. Courtesy of Chip, he became a midrange maestro where him shooting pull-ups was an automatic 2. And of course as he got older, he started taking more 3s. I do still remember him being a sub-30% 3pt shooter before Chip came along and his % only improved because he cut down on his attempts.
A pull-up is a change-of-pace move. Castle's ability to work on the court is going to depend on him being able to exude gravity. For most players nowadays, it comes from shooting, but it can also come from being a relentless downhill scorer. Ideally, it comes from both. A pull-up is a way to extend that gravity in that a defender can't play off or just run them off the line. Having a pull-up game without a three-point shot only helps if he becomes the type of PG who bends a defense with his driving, ala Tony Parker. We saw some glimpses of that tonight, but I still don't know what "star" castle would even look like offensively. Then again, I couldn't've told you what star Siakam would look like either. Sometimes things just happen. I need to see more of him to really understand. Hopefully he's able to play a lot in Vegas and doesn't get pulled early because "he has nothing to prove".
If Castle plays so well in his first 2 Vegas games that he gets sent back to SA, I wouldn't consider that a bad thing. Though he does need a lot more reps than someone like Wemby.
Number Two is a good template for someone who didn't appear to have a path to supers om early in his career but willed his way into it anyway. Since his path was so rare nobody can say that Castle following a similar path is likely, but hope is what sells tickets and jerseys. And what keeps us talking here.
I don't disagree about the Kawhi example. It's one of the things I use to counteract the idea that teams in need of stars should avoid "high-floor" prospects in favor of boom-or-bust players. While I think Kawhi's ultimate s om and rate of growth were shocking, he always had the tools to get there. His jumper coming along where he went from non-shooter to corner-shooter, to three-point shooter, to finally tough-two-off-the-dribble shooter was amazing and rare. Maybe Castle can have a similar curve. But Kawhi also had his absurd strength and wingspan. That's what gave him such a high floor, but it was also his pathway toward s om. Basically teams couldn't stop Leonard from scoring any more than they could stop him from rebounding. Dude was just superlative close to the rim. Add in a knock-down jumper, and he became unguardable. I think Castle is considered a buttershot, but I'm not sure if his inside game is really at the level where he's only a jumper away from a star path. That's not because I've seen him so much and have rendered my judgment. I fully admit I haven't seen a ton of footage on him. That's why I wonder what an actualized offensive Castle would even look like. Are we talking about a downhill wrecking ball like Parker or Westbrook or a deliberate wing scorer like Kawhi or DeRozan?
would like to see him push the pace a bit...Kinda want to see how he handles the ball and playmakes playing fast.
I will say in the limited minutes I've seen Castle so far he does have a feel for the game that only Wemby from our recent draft picks can surpass. That's a nice underrated aspect of drafting him.
Honestly I don't see Castle becoming an allstar at all, I see him becoming an elite and reliable role player. And I'm fine with it. Those are so underrated and hard to find.
He doesn't have the offensive game or mentality to take over and be the go to guy imo. TP9 was obsessed with scoring, it was in him. Stephon is very different
With regards to offensive star, do we think Jrue is an offensive star? I think hes more in that mold than what I would say an offensive engine would be. To me that’s Wemby + Dev, but Castle does enough all around to be a legit third guy on a winning team offensively (and defensively).
i think he's somewhere in between like a butler. even jimmy never became a great three point shooter. just a "good enough" shooter
Not even close to enough sample size/evidence to confidently make this claim tbh.
the way he moves reminds me of a slightly bigger dwyane wade. i'm not saying he will become the player Wade was.
Oppposite for me lol. Wade was such a strong athlete. Castle reminds me more of how Paul Pierce moved and was effective. Just good control, pace and uses strength to get to spots etc…
Who cares? There are a lot of players who get All-Star for putting up big numbers on crappy teams but can't pass or defend a lick.
I think the Jrue comp looks pretty apt best case which is a great thing.
Yeah, but bigger. Castle is taller and heavier.
same comp is why i liked anthony black a lot last year
he didnt have much of a role on a playoff team as a rookie but at least his 3pt shot was respectable
I think being a scorer is a very unique mentality/profile. Those players almost have a indiv sport mentality, they need to force themselves into trusting others and share the ball.
It's not a criticism on Castle, I actually think he has a lot more to bring bb wise than TP as a rookie for ex.
I know he was more offensive in highschool but even the best defensive specialists of all time were the go to guys in highschool.
There's still the SGA path but he won't have the same usage and opportunities than SGA hadat the start of his career bc Wemby is ready to take over the league
The Jrue Holiday profile basically (which is great)
I do consider Jrue more of an elite role player, and if Castle becomes that I would be extatic.
Ya - it’s all about how one measures a star. Guys like Jrue and especially Derrick aren’t considered stars, but they win games.
We should all be given a buzzer to send you a shock when you're being an unnecessary asshole for no reason. Why say who cares? Just make your point without being an insufferable .
You're missing the point
I wasn't criticising him nor giving any value at being an allstar other than it's a popularity selection mainly based on offensives performances and being in the west it might be tough for Castle to get many selections.
My point was just that I'd be very happy if Castle developps into an elite role player rather than a go to guy.
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