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    Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston

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    Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston
    I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.

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    Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston
    but we also got 5 second rounders for J-Rich

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    I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.
    No matter what deal was amazing for BOS - have to see if that swap ends up paying off or not (likely does not)

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    No matter what deal was amazing for BOS - have to see if that swap ends up paying off or not (likely does not)
    Amazing deal for Boston— DW indispensable part their recent playoff successes.

    The recent sale of the Celtics, and scuttlebutt about how unsustainable the cost of their roster will be after next season, gives me hope that the deal could still end up being decent for the Spurs too. But like with the recent MIN deal, we’ll have to wait.

    The SRPs from the related Richardson deal will also be useful. Arguably it was one of those that allowed the Spurs to move Graham (also related to the DW trade), to open up space for the recent Barnes deal.

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    I always thought the return for Derrick at that time was highly underwhelming. At the same time, he was just a perfect fit for Boston and ended up being more efficient there.
    but we also got 5 second rounders for J-Rich
    Massive steal for Boston, and maybe the Spurs should have gotten a little more, but from our POV the real win came in clearing out our floor raisers (Derrick, DJM, Jak to a lesser extent) that were going to hold us back from doing what we needed to do - tank for our star.

    So, as big of a steal as this was for Boston, I’m not mad about it at all from the Spurs POV.

    With that said, there is a lesson here, for lots of teams.

    For a team like Utah… Ainge is trying to win every deal to the maximum extent possible… but at some point he should take fair value for guys like Lauri, Sexton and Clarkson and just bottom out. Does he really need that extra late FRP who will become a Blake Wesley? Picks like that can important when you’re already good and need ways to add to your club, but when you’re bad… one more late FRP usually isn’t what makes or breaks your franchise, especially when you already have more picks than you can possibly use.

    And there is a lesson for the Spurs… in big game hunting for Wemby’s co-star, don’t overvalue that projected late FRP or future swap. If those moves are going to elevate us to a playoff contender, then who f’n cares, so long as you don’t completely empty your cupboard. So we might lose out on the chance to draft another Blake Wesley in 6 years… it’s not a big deal.

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    Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston
    Think of it as a necessity to get Wemby, tbh.

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    Massive steal for Boston, and maybe the Spurs should have gotten a little more, but from our POV the real win came in clearing out our floor raisers (Derrick, DJM, Jak to a lesser extent) that were going to hold us back from doing what we needed to do - tank for our star.

    So, as big of a steal as this was for Boston, I’m not mad about it at all from the Spurs POV.

    With that said, there is a lesson here, for lots of teams.

    For a team like Utah… Ainge is trying to win every deal to the maximum extent possible… but at some point he should take fair value for guys like Lauri, Sexton and Clarkson and just bottom out. Does he really need that extra late FRP who will become a Blake Wesley? Picks like that can important when you’re already good and need ways to add to your club, but when you’re bad… one more late FRP usually isn’t what makes or breaks your franchise, especially when you already have more picks than you can possibly use.

    And there is a lesson for the Spurs… in big game hunting for Wemby’s co-star, don’t overvalue that projected late FRP or future swap. If those moves are going to elevate us to a playoff contender, then who f’n cares, so long as you don’t completely empty your cupboard. So we might lose out on the chance to draft another Blake Wesley in 6 years… it’s not a big deal.
    The value of picks in general mostly comes down to where a team is at in their cycle.

    If you're at ground zero of a re-build like the Wizards are now or the Spurs telegraphed their intention to be with the White trade, then every minor asset you can ac ulate is like gold.

    Since the Jazz are still looking for their foundational player and the next few drafts project to have a cadre of them, they should be coming for it all . . . but not at the expense of having this drag into the season to where they risk hurting their odds.

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    Getting Derrick for what turned out to be Blake Wesley and a future swap is a steal of a trade by Boston
    Highway robbery tbh.

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    The value of picks in general mostly comes down to where a team is at in their cycle.

    If you're at ground zero of a re-build like the Wizards are now or the Spurs telegraphed their intention to be with the White trade, then every minor asset you can ac ulate is like gold.

    Since the Jazz are still looking for their foundational player and the next few drafts project to have a cadre of them, they should be coming for it all . . . but not at the expense of having this drag into the season to where they risk hurting their odds.
    There’s a fine line. By holding out for max value on guys like Lauri, Ainge is just dragging out the process of bottoming out. That doesn’t mean he should give away bargain basement deals, but at some point he shouldn’t hold out for that 5th late FRP.

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    They won't trade Derrick unless it's for a haul imo, but damn I'd love him back in SA playing besides Wemby tbh. One of the truly elite role players in this league.


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    They won't trade Derrick unless it's for a haul imo, but damn I'd love him back in SA playing besides Wemby tbh. One of the truly elite role players in this league.

    That 2028 swap is getting sweeter and sweeter.

    As much as I love Derrick, I'm happy with Castle and Harper as my future backcourt.

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    That 2028 swap is getting sweeter and sweeter.

    As much as I love Derrick, I'm happy with Castle and Harper as my future backcourt.
    That pick swap will be perfect for us when we trade for Jayson Tatum.

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    Seems to me the issue we face is not getting free agents to come but managing payroll. Which is actually more in the good problems to have category. We are gonna be getting STAAAACKED.

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    Seems to me the issue we face is not getting free agents to come but managing payroll. Which is actually more in the good problems to have category. We are gonna be getting STAAAACKED.
    yup, lining up contracts the right way is key, which is why KD fits.

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