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NoI'm confused. If you guys are right, then doesn't that mean that it couldn't have been Salaun, which means that Mr. Body, even if he didn't get the timing right, was correct it wasn't Salaun?
Why couldn't it have been both.
Spurs would have drafted salaun and kept him with no trade with Minn had he been there at 8 but since he wasn't there they had another player in mind, then Minn called and the Spurs liked the trade offer more than the player they were ready to draft or any other available player.
NoI'm confused. If you guys are right, then doesn't that mean that it couldn't have been Salaun, which means that Mr. Body, even if he didn't get the timing right, was correct it wasn't Salaun?
Theoretical spurs board
Salaun
Wolves package
Player they were otherwise prepared to pick at 8
in that order
They didn't really "want" anyone available at 8 if they'd rather take that minny offer so this argument is pointless
This happens all the time. Like their board at 4 was probably
Castle
Some package for 4
Their next player
Some other package for 4
Another player
Without a trade the Spurs were going to have to take a player at 8, so of course they knew who they would pick in that event. It's not weird or some revelation that they had a draft board. But they did the work early and set up trades before the draft. Minny was willing to meet the Spurs' price (perhaps out of fear that Dilly go would before the first team they worked a deal out with that would've accepted a lesser package than SA required), and so the trade was struck. Now you can criticize the Spurs for having that priority list -- and I have -- but there's no contradiction here.
If Salaun indeed was their top choice at 8 (very possible), an unprotected pick and 2 unprotected swaps sound like a great deal, even if they won't convey in this decade.
So who is this mystery “Player they were otherwise prepared to pick at 8?”
Should of just pulled the trigger on Edey @ the 8 pick.
Edey's going to be a problem and Wemby still doesn't have credible a backup for when he's not on the floor.
May have to wait till the 2025 draft to get that.
Why would we trust what the FO is saying in this situation? Sounds like spin that teams say in these situations. Spurs are always tight lipped. And they're trying to make the trade seem convincing.
This is one FO that doesn’t have to try to “sell” anything. They have no reason to blow sunshine up your ass, because I don’t think they care what you or I think.
I agree they don't care what we think, but I also think they're always tight-lipped as a matter of principle, so yes, I think they obfuscate in these situations.
Dillingham with the +9 in his first Summer League outing. Proving himself to already be a high positive impact player tbh.
well, if we're going to overreact to one summer game we can also say he can't shoot for .
And he's better than Joe Wieskamp.
I feel like they would have been happy with Holland, Salaun, or Clingan at 8. But once those 3 guys were off the board like Spurraider was saying the next best thing became the Wolves deal over the next best available player at 8. Did y'all see the way Brian Wright tossed the phone after doing the deal with the Wolves. Seems like he wasn't exactly happy about it. Could just be reading into it too much, but that's what it felt like. Seems like this was that last outcome they expected to play out and they had to roll with it.
Ouch 2-12 shooting but definitely some potential
It's funny because 2-12 is probably the range that MIN 20131 FRP will fall in
How does he look?
Only highlight I saw GOOD. Dunked on a fast break with ease and hung on the rim. You have to be a really good athlete to do that so easily at his height.
Dillingham puts up a lot of shots, probably instructed to. Has picked up nice assists. He's the anti-Castle in how guards bounce off Stephon on his drives; Dillingham bounces off anyone when he takes it in.
He's a wreck on defense, unsurprisingly. It's not the size so much as getting constantly lost. Fails to pick out an open man under the basket who should be his, caught watching the ball letting Furphy go touchdown pass for a dunk. Maybe this is fixable, but it will take a long time and change of mindset.
Furphy, man, still wish we could have picked him up. I guess they needed the cap free for their plans and dumping salary otherwise would have taken another SRP if at all possible, and not like he's a worldbeater, but he's very active, moves well, good hands, rebounds. My guess is they think using resources to marginally upgrade Julian Champagnie, the median outcome, wasn't worth it. I see the rationale for not paying another marginal wing guaranteed salary.
He is just too small. It's just too much of a risk to gamble on him overcoming that in the NBA. Even if he ends up good on the offensive end he is always going to be a liability on defense. Can't survive in the NBA being one dimensional. You have to atleast be serviceable on the opposite end.
It's important to point out that the NBA is a league of margins. There are guys who can't make it in the NBA but who dominate in lower leagues. It's why folks who think good d-league or international players are obviously better than whatever Spurs player they hate are usually off base. We see that most often with guys who have a ton of talent but are too small or slow. Dillingham might be one of those guys who will turn out of be unplayable in the NBA but dominate in the d-league, like Alondes Williams is doing. He certainly had some plays in those highlights which wouldn't work against a real NBA defense.
That said, ugh. If Castle doesn't become a very good offensive player, it should cost the front office their jobs. They've gone to this "positionless" well so many times with little to show for it. At some point they need to start scouting for talent then coaching that talent rather than trying to revolutionize the game.
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