2024 NBA Off-Season Thread (FA, Trades, Extensions, Rumors)

[DPG21920]

I think you need to listen to Windy’s rhetoric again if you think he’s been pro San Antonio. He’s not. He along with other pundits are already trying to drive the narrative that the FO is failing Wemby. I think the agenda is obvious. If you don’t see where I’m coming from go watch his reaction after Giannis signed his extension with the Bucks. I predict Windy along with others will have a similar reaction when the Spurs start winning and they’ve been made to look like morons.

I’ve listened to plenty of him gushing over San Antonio. There’s nothing there with regard to your theory and Windy in particular imo.

[DPG21920]

I had Risacher Sheppard Dillingham Sarr in my top tier and in that order

and i admittedly was low on Castle as a point guard and preferred him as a wing. Would love to be wrong there and so far like the things I’ve seen

I flip flopped 100s of scenarios leading up to draft but ultimately I settled on Reed as best player for a variety of reasons. I really liked Castle too but I did voice that I think his floor is lower than many here would admit if things don’t go well.

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[RC_Drunkford]

Nah this is changing the narrative. Not you specifically, but there’s plenty of evidence in the threads questioning if Reed would have success in the NBA. His combine was even twisted against him. And comments about him only being able to play shooting guard. You can easily find out who those guys are that people should stop listening to for draft analysis tbh

Wait, I remember your ass calling him a 6th man at best. I take it back . What kind of gaslighting is this

every player in this draft had these type of concerns. Risacher's dribbling, Sarr's and Castle's shooting, Sheppard's and Dillingham's height. That doesn't mean he wasn't up high on my board. I know I said this and I'm still higher on Dillingham cause of his self creation ability, but that doesn't mean Sheppard ain't a top 5 pick in this mediocre draft class. Like most people on this board I still had him before Holland, Knecht, Buzelis, Cody Williams, Clingan, Edey, Salaun and even Devin Carter, so figure out where he's ranked

By the way I still think he will play 6th man for the Rockets this season.

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[RC_Drunkford]

I found one of the posts

this is gaslighting at its finest and why i call out people who make bad takes and never own up to it

While you are digging up posts, you should look up your Draft Consensus Series and see who I voted for at #3: Reed Sheppard

[spurraider21]

I flip flopped 100s of scenarios leading up to draft but ultimately I settled on Reed as best player for a variety of reasons. I really liked Castle too but I did voice that I think his floor is lower than many here would admit if things don’t go well.

I had wing castle as a tier 2 prospect and pg castle as a tier 4 prospect.

here’s to hopefully being wrong

[rjv]

Taj Gibson is still in the league?

[rascal]

most of us had Sheppard in their top 5 tbh

Not me

Didn't like either Kentucky guard. Still like Castle more than both of them.

[R. DeMurre]

Yeah, I never agreed with people questioning Reed's defense... he had elite steal numbers and incredible block numbers for a guard, and had the best defensive impact stats by far on his Kentucky team. His defensive numbers were better than some guys in recent drafts who were considered defensive specialists. Almost all of the concerns were based on a tiny sample size of POA videos, but every defender has those... if you look at the entire body of evidence, he was a great defender in college.

[benefactor]

Summer League is built for shooters and those that can take advantage of a crazy, chaotic up-and-down game with no rhythm. Marco Bellinelli had like 40 in a SL game at one point.

That said, I don't know who was against drafting Sheppard. Other than his size, it's pretty clear he was going to be one of the top guys in the draft. That's why he didn't last to the Spurs pick.

Mr. Body said he'd rather trade down than take Sheppard

[benefactor]

Taj Gibson is still in the league?

Ha...I literally just said that out loud lol

[scott]

Bassey news? Must be waiting til after the Lauri trade

[CGD]

Are these 4 year deals for SRPs basically the Bassey deals? The dollar amounts on their face look stupid large otherwise

[Chinook]

Are these 4 year deals for SRPs basically the Bassey deals? The dollar amounts on their face look stupid large otherwise

Think of them as basically what DeJuan Blair got from SA in 2009. It's very close to what the 30th pick gets.

You also need to recalibrate of you think a min salary is stupid large

[heyheymymy]

Bassey news? Must be waiting til after the Lauri trade

the prodigal son must return

[AFBlue]

Mr. Body said he'd rather trade down than take Sheppard

Good to know. Personally, I had Sheppard as the top guy on my board.

[objective]

I had Shepperd #1 and there were plenty of anti-Shepperd people for pick 4. I also was anti-Castle, and that is not over for me, still not high on Castle.

BUT

I will grant that there was probably no realistic avenue for the Spurs to have moved up and traded for Shepperd with the 3 teams above them.

Atlanta at #1 could have been so bent on leverage that nothing short of their entire future draft back could have been good enough. A dozen other teams could have been #1 pick and willing to deal fairly with the Spurs but I don't think Atlanta was. Not even 4 & 8 would have done it, I bet they would have squeezed for 25 & 27 if the Spurs were so hot on moving up and that wasn't happening

Washington at #2 for the first time in history has a player that is maneuvering to get to them, and if they trade down to 4, risk losing to Houston or a trade at 3 and I don't think they were risking that for anything

Houston had Shepperd #1 on their board, rightly, and weren't going to give that up, even for 4 and 8 in this draft. Shepperd was the best, and 4 and 8 weren't getting you there.

If Memphis had moved to top 3, they probably are willing to move down because they could still get a center they like and have a premiere back court already. Portland would have been willing to trade, I bet Charlotte also.

But the way I see it, there wasn't a credible way to ever get Shepperd after the draft order became what it was.

Now would the Spurs have passed on Shepperd anyway? I don't know. I don't trust their scouting, but they did pass on Buzelis even when having the chance, and I feared a Castle & Buzelis combo predraft, 2 of my least favorite. But there were those weird stories about the Spurs scouting every practice and game in person for Castle, which seems like a waste of time and overkill, if they liked him that much they could have spent more time on other players and maybe they would have found a guy they really wanted for 8, but whatever.

[TD 21]

^ Agreed that probably no reasonable package was getting them into the top 3, but I don't think they would have taken Sheppard over Castle anyway.

It's been made painstakingly clear for the better part of a decade now that they're not interested in investing in a small guard, prioritizing shooting or leaning heavily on analytics.

[mudyez]

I remember this language..."Oh mein Gott" translates to "Spurs are sooooo lucky."

[ace3g]

Veteran big man Mike Muscala is ending his playing career, telling Joel Lorenzi of The Oklahoman that he plans to retire.

[ace3g]

[Bruno]

A couple of Euroleague teams (Bercelona and Milano) are reportedly interested in signing Mamu:
https://www.sport.es/es/noticias/bal...cado-105608073
https://www.pianetabasket.com/olimpi...s-vegas-305656

If no NBA team want to sign him or if he prefers to have more playing time, Mamu has some nice options in Europe.

[KingKev]

Windy’s agenda along with the other fairies at ESPN is apparent and their desire to push Wemby out of SA and to a bigger market. For the next couple years these “insiders” are going to attempt to put a wedge between PATFO and Wemby. Hopefully everyone involved is smart enough to realize what’s happening. If I’m Spurs management I wouldn’t let these bas s anywhere near the building.

Everything these fellas said was spot on and very apparent to anyone with half a brain.

[Ariel]

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/563...est-nba-notes/

The Golden State Warriors have been the most engaged team for Lauri Markkanen in recent weeks, as league sources tell The Athletic they have discussed a proposal around Moses Moody, multiple first-round picks, multiple pick swaps and multiple second-round picks. The Jazz, however, have asked for the bulk of young talent and capital the Warriors possess, including Moody, Jonathan Kuminga and Brandin Podziemski, along with picks, which has been a non-starter thus far for Golden State, league sources said.

Trying to guess Ainge's asking price for the Spurs: Vassell, Castle, Sochan, every pick and swap available, and the soul of Pop's grandchildren.