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Next three weeks should be very interesting.
Yeah, I still think the situation is ripe for Houston to swoop in. They have the young prospects and the picks, and I think Lauri is a good consolidation move for them, even if the on-the-court fit with Sengun isn't great. If they could get Kessler in the deal as well (and maybe Sengun is what goes over to Utah), then a Sheppard/Green/Jabari/Lauri/Kessler lineup would be pretty interesting for them.
Sengun + a couple of picks might be the kind of deal that works really well for Utah. I am not familiar with the recovery timeline on Sengun's injury, but it is goes into the start of the season it gives them a nice rolling tank to start and they can slowly bring Sengun back to cement a Bottom-3 seed in the lotto.
Next three weeks should be very interesting.
Why are we treating all first round picks as equal? Why would Ainge move Markannen in a deal where the centerpiece would be Golden State's 2025 and 2027 picks for example? Which is what I saw Hollinger mention as the picks likely involved. Those are trash for a rebuilding team, hence the outrageous ask on player return. Golden State is going to have to give up post Curry unprotected firsts as well as at least a TOSB Curry era swap just for Utah taking Wiggins remaining $85 million deal off their hands.
Nah, you forgetting they have Amen Thompson? Green's the one they'd move.
I think Houston’s eyes are further down the road. There’s a reason they gave back most of Brooklyns picks in exchange for the Phoenix picks. They have their eye on either KD or Book, and those picks would be the key to unlocking a deal, because they would allow Phoenix to burn it to the ground in a rebuild.
Wonder if phoenix would entertain a KD for KAT swap +/- picks going either way if they start slow. Wolves really get to go for it for 1-2 years, phoenix doesn’t bottom out with KAT and book
Amen can't shoot for ... like, he makes Collins look like Steph. If Amen is going into this lineup, then Kessler doesn't they'd need a center who can shoot. Sengun is slightly more of a threat, but he's still not really a shooter either, and he's weak defensively (Kessler actually ranks ahead of Wemby in BB Index's rim protection ratings. I'm not sure I'd believe that, but I do believe Kessler is at least a top-5 rim protector in the league, but he's not much else).
Green isn't a lights out shooter, but he's kind of like Trae Young - someone capable but with an average that is brought down by too much volume and poor shot selection. With that said... he's not that great either, but I think he's a better fit if they're bringing in Lauri. Honestly, they would be best off doing the Lauri deal I suggested and trying to trade Green somewhere else. Idk if Brooks is capable of playing SG, but if he could then that would also be an interesting lineup, but too light on the creation/penetration. Green's archetype fits better at SG for them... he just needs to take a leap in maturity that he may not be capable of.
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Just my opinion, but I don't see KD making any sense for Houston. As much as I hate to admit it, the Rockets have done a good job rebuilding that franchise and going all in for an aging KD just destroys all their work for a 1 or 2 year window with KD (if that... it's not like KD is raising the level of PHX right now). Booker, on the other hand makes a ton of sense... but I guess the question becomes, do you pass the opportunity that is known (Lauri) for an opportunity that may or may not ever arise (Booker)? It's a gamble! If I were a Rockets fan (and thankfully I am not), I'd want to go the Lauri route, because it's a real opportunity here now, and the fit is good both in terms of on-the-court and timeline (same reasons that apply to us. I'd be down with Booker too... but that opportunity may never actually materialize, so I'm not going to hold out for it).
What contract would you give for Markannen?
At thinking gay is an insult in '24 . . . and no, I'm not. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Yeah, people love to freak out over this stuff, but it's negotiation 101: Start unreasonably high, so when you eventually come down to high or relatively so, you can pretend to have compromised, when in reality that was always the inevitable endgame.
Presuming Markkanen is ready to extend on August 6th, the Jazz are not the ones facing any pressure here and even if he isn't, that deadline is still far enough away to play hardball for the time being.
In this NBA, there is only one contract to offer: the max. If Lauri wants to do some kind of Brunson favor, he'll communicate that and you work from there... but any team acquiring Lauri has to be willing, able and prepared to pay him the max.
I think the Warriors will feel a sense of trying to give Steph one last ride and a le contending team in his twilight years, and make a bad move to try and give the franchise icon one last chance. I think 2022 was the swan song and they don't really have an avenue of getting up a tier.
If I'm Ainge, I'm asking for Podz, 2029 and 31 swaps, 2028 and 2030 (1-20) picks. I think those late GS picks are more valuable than the Minnesota pick (Steph is older than Ant), but less valuable than the Atlanta picks (immediacy).
I think Indiana could be another interesting option as a trading partner. They have a bunch of young pieces that they could look to bundle together (Mathurin, Nemhard, Walker, Sheppard) and could be more heavily player than pick based, but upgrading the starting wings with a 3 for 1 could make a lot of sense. I'd guess Ainge wants picks rather than players for the tank, so it'd probably need to be a 3 teamer (to an extent).
Interesting idea with Indianapolis but I don't see how they could afford three max guys in the long-term, but from a dollars perspective and from a cap management/apron avoidance perspective. If not for the cap and aprons, I'd agree that the Pacers would be a good fit.
Is Markannen worth that much money?? Have you seen how many times he played in PO in his career? Can he win??
This the same guy who thinks the Spurs, Thunder and Celtics are in a master class of front offices and other front offices should avoid trading with them... but I agree with his take here.
Thanks for the attempted lesson, Wokey.
And you feel the need to state that you're "not, Not that there is anything wrong with that."Trying to play both sides.
On topic you think it's such an easy thing to deal with Ainge. It isn't.
Yea and also should have traded Kawhi back for George Hill under that logic.
I like to get ahead of the next response when I can, which is easy to do with people as predictable as your MAGA ass andThanks for the attempted lesson, Wokey.
And you feel the need to state that you're "not, Not that there is anything wrong with that."
On topic you think it's such an easy thing to deal with Ainge. It isn't.
Where did I say it was easy?
Would be really rad if this message board could finally do away with the use of various slurs it seems to love.
I'm a MAGA. I'll post that in the political forum for some LoLs.I like to get ahead of the next response when I can, which is easy to do with people as predictable as your MAGA ass and
Where did I say it was easy?
Anyway not sure what your next Strawman, excuse me Strawperson is going to be but yes could we stick to basketball?
Sounds like you're trying to make it sound easy with Ainge.
My question is how do we get ainge to be our GM?
Our GM is doing plenty fine on the asset ac ulation. The real question is whether he’ll know how to shift gears when it’s time to use the chips. Honestly, Angie is pretty trash at that part of the job.
Im so over thinking about Lauri. I would much rather UTA keep him, pay him and build around him than for some team to get fleeced for a ton of picks and players and allow UTA to avoid building around Lauri and be more like OKC.
UTA keeping Lauri better than than that for SA future.
It also weakens a 25 draft compe or if they keep him, so we should be rooting for that. Ainge’s leverage diminishes by the day.
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