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    scott right now

    We got Markannen?

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    I think the FO has sent an unmistakable signal to DA..."this is our best offer and if the GSW's beat it then take it". If we get him it'll be on our terms.
    I think our offer probably wins if Golden State keeps refusing to trade for a 2030 pick so Ainge can pluck their juicy 2029 and 2031 firsts unprotectected. If they do trade for a 2030 pick think the Spurs won't be able to match the Warriors offer though.

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    It might be a summer of celebrations

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    Bassey won't return from injury for awhile, correct?
    They must really love him. Tough bruiser types are always good to have around for keeping practices intense.
    I don't expect that we'll see much of him, but, he is a welcome sight compared to our backup center.

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    All he does is block n maybe rebound. Never saw him impress in post or be a good passer. Supposedly he may have a secret shooting ability spurs never let him use so let's see if it comes out this year

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    All he does is block n maybe rebound. Never saw him impress in post or be a good passer. Supposedly he may have a secret shooting ability spurs never let him use so let's see if it comes out this year
    He’s a third string center on a one-year minimum deal…did you think you were getting Jokic?

    He’s a solid interior defender and rebounder - two areas where we totally fell apart last year whenever Wemby wasn’t playing.

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    Since he's been injured so long it would be fantastic if he worked on his outside shooting. His career seems to be hanging on the Spurs interest in keeping flexibility. So, I guess not sure how much they really are invested in him. But rooting for him.

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    Bleh. I like Bassey (and Mamu) but just a little disappointing to have access to an ~8MM MLE and not use it.
    Keep in mind, these are non rotation spots and even in this environment, you don't sign someone for a portion or all of the room exception to do that.

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    Keep in mind, these are non rotation spots and even in this environment, you don't sign someone for a portion or all of the room exception to do that.
    Right, I guess in my dream world we would’ve gotten a more legitimate backup 2 or 3 (with the MLE) to take minutes from Branham/Champagnie. Admittedly the options at this point are pretty slim though so whatever.

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    The thing is guys like mamu can blow up n have a break out game any night, or at least have a big impact on winning. We've always been able to pick up high iq guys like this but I don't see Bassey fitting that role like a mamu or osman can

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    Bassey is more of a Wemby backup than Barlow, methinks. Was an efficient player when he wasn't injured.

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    I liked what i saw from Bassey last year. When healthy presented himself a legit alternative to Collins as the backup C depending on what is stylistically needed. Do we need the offensive creation of Collins (yes i know, his 3 point shot died last year... but was still a fairly effective interior scorer), or do we need more sturdy interior defense?

    Our offense was pretty bad last year almost regardless of who was on the floor, but our defense was good with Wemby, and horrible without. Bassey can provide something of a buffer there

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    Bassey won't return from injury for awhile, correct?
    They must really love him. Tough bruiser types are always good to have around for keeping practices intense.
    I don't expect that we'll see much of him, but, he is a welcome sight compared to our backup center.
    His injury was in a game on the 1st of December, and the ACL surgery recovery period is generally a year.

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    I thought they had two open roster spots prior to bringing back Bassey. Did I miss a Mamu resigning?

    Edit: Yes, I did indeed. Good news!

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    I think the FO has sent an unmistakable signal to DA..."this is our best offer and if the GSW's beat it then take it". If we get him it'll be on our terms.
    Then you won't get him and miss on an opportunity. Egotic victories don't matter. That's just not how trades work. We can flex all we want, but ultimately Ainge decides and we should stop thinking he's desperate and GS or SA could be the only interested teams. And like the whole NBA, he knows spurs need to find another star. There's some pressure for SA too.

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    I agree with Chinook in that there was SO MUCH room to turn over a lot more of the roster. Bringing in Barnes + CP I think were good moves for this type of plan, but they dont move needle much truly IMO.

    Im good with what SA did on top 8 in rotation adding CP+Barnes+Castle - they will all play solid minutes. But the Spurs pipeline and back half of the roster needs so much change and upgrades its a little disappointing to not see some more turnover or ambition at this point to take some swings on newer, higher upside players (ie trading that 8th pick - which several guys look pretty damn good in SL like Bub, Cody Williams, Buzelis etc…)


    I actually like Mamu so Im glad hes back, but Collins (to a lesser degree, I think if hes healthy and confident he is a + player), Bassey, Branham, Blake, etc just aren’t exciting and although it doesnt matter much this season anyways, I really hope they keep ramping up the aggression on turning over the roster and trying to find more productive higher end players

    The Spurs talent pipeline is pretty rough right now at back end but good news is that can change so fast with how much draft capital SA has.

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    I agree with Chinook in that there was SO MUCH room to turn over a lot more of the roster. Bringing in Barnes + CP I think were good moves for this type of plan, but they dont move needle much truly IMO.

    Im good with what SA did on top 8 in rotation adding CP+Barnes+Castle - they will all play solid minutes. But the Spurs pipeline and back half of the roster needs so much change and upgrades its a little disappointing to not see some more turnover or ambition at this point to take some swings on newer, higher upside players (ie trading that 8th pick - which several guys look pretty damn good in SL like Bub, Cody Williams, Buzelis etc…)


    I actually like Mamu so Im glad hes back, but Collins (to a lesser degree, I think if hes healthy and confident he is a + player), Bassey, Branham, Blake, etc just aren’t exciting and although it doesnt matter much this season anyways, I really hope they keep ramping up the aggression on turning over the roster and trying to find more productive higher end players

    The Spurs talent pipeline is pretty rough right now at back end but good news is that can change so fast with how much draft capital SA has.
    replacing last year's vets of Graham/Osman with Paul/Barnes is obviously an upgrade

    replacing Barlow with Castle is fine

    but we really couldn't improve upon bassey/mamu? we had to commit to another year of Cissoko/Wesley? we have the full room exception available...

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    They probably see growth potential in Bassey/Mamu as well as willingness to take one year deals. Cissoko/Wesley? Young enough to give them one more season. I'm not sure the room exception would be used for anything more than one season even if the owners want to go that far over the cap. I won't expect any more regular team signings. I expect most things to reaming on hold until the Lauri situation resolves.

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    It's hard to know whether it's a good signing or not because it's all about his left knee. When will he comeback from the ACL surgery and what is the global health of that knee after having had 3 major injuries to it?

    And Spurs' end of the bench being quite bad is a direct result of a lack of investment. Last year, Spurs traded away their early second round pick and they spend it, this year, on a stashed player.

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    Neither is a good offensive player - which may doom their long-term outlook - but both Cissoko and Wesley have shown glimpses as defenders & an offensive connector (Sidy)/ (secondary) playmaker (Blake). It makes some sense to give them both another year when the team is in dire need of quality perimeter defenders.

    I'm okay with keeping the back end of the roster with young guys that can still theoretically improve, but keeping guys like Zach and Keldon around I'm against.

    They both have reached their peak, don't fit well beside Wembanyama, and are too flawed to be major pieces on a winning team, so why not flip one or both for more defense or an outside shooter?
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    They probably see growth potential in Bassey/Mamu as well as willingness to take one year deals. Cissoko/Wesley? Young enough to give them one more season. I'm not sure the room exception would be used for anything more than one season even if the owners want to go that far over the cap. I won't expect any more regular team signings. I expect most things to reaming on hold until the Lauri situation resolves.
    Sure I agree that’s reality and it makes sense and it’s nothing to hand-wring over too much in the context of SA clearly not pushing to be contenders this offseason anyways. But I do think they could have gotten a bit more ambitious in taking some swings on guys with upside (like not trading pick 8 for example) and I would have preferred that just because the bottom 5-7 guys on this team are just so weak amongst having profiles as non-shooters which is just hard to stomach collectively.

    Not a big deal in context, but individually I would hope to see a much sharper approach with higher upside swings starting after this season.

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    It's pretty apparent what they did and did not want to do this offseason. It looks like the team is set for the start of the season barring a Lauri trade; something like that would seem the only thing that would sway the Spurs from keeping their flexibility going into next summer with the reportedly deep draft.

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    I agree with Chinook in that there was SO MUCH room to turn over a lot more of the roster. Bringing in Barnes + CP I think were good moves for this type of plan, but they dont move needle much truly IMO.

    Im good with what SA did on top 8 in rotation adding CP+Barnes+Castle - they will all play solid minutes. But the Spurs pipeline and back half of the roster needs so much change and upgrades its a little disappointing to not see some more turnover or ambition at this point to take some swings on newer, higher upside players (ie trading that 8th pick - which several guys look pretty damn good in SL like Bub, Cody Williams, Buzelis etc…)


    I actually like Mamu so Im glad hes back, but Collins (to a lesser degree, I think if hes healthy and confident he is a + player), Bassey, Branham, Blake, etc just aren’t exciting and although it doesnt matter much this season anyways, I really hope they keep ramping up the aggression on turning over the roster and trying to find more productive higher end players

    The Spurs talent pipeline is pretty rough right now at back end but good news is that can change so fast with how much draft capital SA has.
    As much as I am happy to see Bassey back, I generally agree. Pretty much everyone was in agreement that Spurs simply shouldn't run it back + two rookies this year... and while they aren't doing that, they aren't doing too much beyond that. Individually the CP3 and Barnes moves make sense, but a 39-year old CP3 and a role playing Barnes aren't really needle movers, like you said. And of course... we only brought in one rookie instead of two.

    I'd call this a slightly more advanced version of Running it Back.

    With that said, it is just one year. I'd definitely like the Spurs be more aggressive in taking advantage of Wemby's rookie deal... but they are sticking with the slow and steady approach.

    I'm not touching the over on 35.5 wins.

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    It's hard to know whether it's a good signing or not because it's all about his left knee. When will he comeback from the ACL surgery and what is the global health of that knee after having had 3 major injuries to it?

    And Spurs' end of the bench being quite bad is a direct result of a lack of investment. Last year, Spurs traded away their early second round pick and they spend it, this year, on a stashed player.
    Yeah, it is quite shocking to me that in back to back years we turned the 33rd and 35th pick into cash and a guy who we probably never intend on bringing over.

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    Yeah, it is quite shocking to me that in back to back years we turned the 33rd and 35th pick into cash and a guy who we probably never intend on bringing over.
    and yet gave a big league contract to Cissoko

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