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    In a vacuum, I like Barlow more than Bassey. But for whatever reason, Barlow and Wemby didn't mesh at all.

    Bassey loses $300,000 after getting waived and re-signed -- but he has to be pleased about getting fully guaranteed after his knees exploded for a third time.
    Very true but I still would have preferred Barlow.

    He was rapidly improving, and could have developed to point where he did fit better with Wemby.

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    For me it’s not even just about having higher upside guys in spots 10-15. It’s more about having guys even if similar upside that are at least for sure good at something especially shooting. So that we can actually, even if limited minutes, have some real options to use and help lineups out situationally vs being forced to play guys with such obvious flaws and fit concerns.
    The fact that they didn't add a single shooter (Paul and Barnes can shoot, but they're not shooters per se in terms of volume/off movement/quickness of release) is bizarre.

    I’m ok with the Bassey signing, but is he going to be back on the court before December? If not, who will be in the middle to protect the rim until it’s found out whether he’s still able to play? I think the team will need to win 10 of the first 25 games to start on a good enough trajectory to offer hope for a playoff run. Yes I’m one of the idiots that think they might sneak in. Without a backup rim protector I don’t know if that’s really doable.
    No one (maybe Mensah or some other similar archetype gets a two-way at least until Bassey returns, but realistically Mamukelashvili will be the de factor third center in the interim).

    It's going to be '08-'11 redux, with Wembanyama in the role of Duncan.

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    I’m ok with the Bassey signing, but is he going to be back on the court before December? If not, who will be in the middle to protect the rim until it’s found out whether he’s still able to play? I think the team will need to win 10 of the first 25 games to start on a good enough trajectory to offer hope for a playoff run. Yes I’m one of the idiots that think they might sneak in. Without a backup rim protector I don’t know if that’s really doable.
    If not we get a better pick in great draft what's the problem

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    who are the 4 competent point guards? i can count Paul, Jones, Castle (i think we are all assuming he will be competent). is Wesley really competent?

    but point taken. not another point guard. there are other FAs to be had that can take Wesley's spot on the roster. or Cissoko's if you want to hold onto the first round pedigree
    I'm counting Bouyea at this point; looks like he can fill in for the mothership if needed.

    As for the rest, I'm not terribly worried. Minix is penciled in to be our older, cheaper Furphy IMO (his transition from NAIA to D1 was pretty seamless) or maybe Mensah/Williams get another bite at the apple. Young players and/or reclamation projects are always out there and the Spurs seem to cycle through their two-ways until they hit.

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    I’m ok with the Bassey signing, but is he going to be back on the court before December? If not, who will be in the middle to protect the rim until it’s found out whether he’s still able to play? I think the team will need to win 10 of the first 25 games to start on a good enough trajectory to offer hope for a playoff run. Yes I’m one of the idiots that think they might sneak in. Without a backup rim protector I don’t know if that’s really doable.
    Mamu can play spot minutes as the 3rd center. Collins, of course,will be the primary backup.

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    Mamu can play spot minutes as the 3rd center. Collins, of course,will be the primary backup.

    Colins will be gone before the season starts. I think Lauri can plan 10 to 15 minutes of backup center? Is he Better than Collins defensively?

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    I'm counting Bouyea at this point; looks like he can fill in for the mothership if needed.

    As for the rest, I'm not terribly worried. Minix is penciled in to be our older, cheaper Furphy IMO (his transition from NAIA to D1 was pretty seamless) or maybe Mensah/Williams get another bite at the apple. Young players and/or reclamation projects are always out there and the Spurs seem to cycle through their two-ways until they hit.
    think its a stretch to consider Bouyea a "competent point guard on the team."

    he's on a two-way, so the commitment there is fickle at best. he has no meaningful nba production, and we're basing this on watching a handful of summer league games.

    the leap from "ah he shows some nice things in summer league" to "he'd be a competent point guard for the varsity team" is quite vast

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    think its a stretch to consider Bouyea a "competent point guard on the team."

    he's on a two-way, so the commitment there is fickle at best. he has no meaningful nba production, and we're basing this on watching a handful of summer league games.

    the leap from "ah he shows some nice things in summer league" to "he'd be a competent point guard for the varsity team" is quite vast
    And yet, here I am.

    Fine. Three competent point guards and two projects seems like plenty IMO.

    Spurs seem to be way more ed if Vassell goes down than one of the point guards.

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    And yet, here I am.

    Fine. Three competent point guards and two projects seems like plenty IMO.


    hence my willingness to upgrade the roster by ditching the more expensive of the projects

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    very happy about this.

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    hence my willingness to upgrade the roster by ditching the more expensive of the projects
    Not for another point guard. That would be a waste considering the minute juggling that will be done already.

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    Not for another point guard. That would be a waste considering the minute juggling that will be done already.
    asked and answered, crayola
    but point taken. not another point guard. there are other FAs to be had that can take Wesley's spot on the roster. or Cissoko's if you want to hold onto the first round pedigree

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    imho bourea is more about 2025 when paul , tre, and maybe westley are out of here. Hes a solid cheap third pg worth investing in now so that he's cheap and dependable in 2026 and beyond.

    just get him into training camp now and worry about minutes later. of all our pgs bourea doesn't need minutes now, hes' a pretty finished product. he's never gonna be going against starting talent so he doesn't need to acclimate to that right away

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    We’re talking about Bouyea as a future rotation player now? Have we been bad so long that we’ve lost all sight of what quality looks like?

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    We’re talking about Bouyea as a future rotation player now? Have we been bad so long that we’ve lost all sight of what quality looks like?
    tbh... 25 year old summer leaguer on a two-way is somehow part of the equation

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    We’re talking about Bouyea as a future rotation player now? Have we been bad so long that we’ve lost all sight of what quality looks like?
    HOTS.

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    We’re talking about Bouyea as a future rotation player now?
    I don't see anyone doing that tbh. Third string.

    I understand the Veruca Salt foot stamping about wanting everything now. Looks like they tried for Lauri and Ingram and felt the price was too high.

    I guess you can stamp more and say "Try harder!" but it's going to be little things until the next draft barring some big trade that is worthy of some/many future picks.

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    imho bourea is more about 2025 when paul , tre, and maybe westley are out of here. Hes a solid cheap third pg worth investing in now so that he's cheap and dependable in 2026 and beyond.

    just get him into training camp now and worry about minutes later. of all our pgs bourea doesn't need minutes now, hes' a pretty finished product. he's never gonna be going against starting talent so he doesn't need to acclimate to that right away
    decent troll tbh

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    After landing VW I've lost the interest in pining for second rounders and SL guys to do anything. I'm still hoping for some of our FRPs to make a leap. Summer League players have a near impossible task to get real minutes, especially now that outright tanking is gradually being deprioritozed, I think. Having said that, we need quality role players wherever we can get them.

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    I don't see anyone doing that tbh. Third string.

    I understand the Veruca Salt foot stamping about wanting everything now. Looks like they tried for Lauri and Ingram and felt the price was too high.

    I guess you can stamp more and say "Try harder!" but it's going to be little things until the next draft barring some big trade that is worthy of some/many future picks.
    Perfect description of ST. A+ post.

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