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None of the Hawks picks should be on the table. Too valuable. One of them will be top 3 to 4 pick and we use it to find our 2nd star.
Well, you got me Ainge...I'm preparing to wake up and have Lauri on our team...at this point, I just hope the Charlotte and Chicago 1sts...maybe Bostons...are part of the package (for Danny to keep face), while we keep the Hawks picks...but at least the later probably wont happen.
None of the Hawks picks should be on the table. Too valuable. One of them will be top 3 to 4 pick and we use it to find our 2nd star.
Hate to throw water on the fire, but ...
Windhorst meme has received his answer
My personal line would be:
Keldon (even though I love this good soldier)
Charlotte '25
Bulls '25
Spurs '27
Boston '28
...Spurs keep the high upside picks/swaps and pick at least one player every year...Ainge saves face by getting four 1sts...
...but well, coz it's Ainge I doubt he will do the deal without getting at least one shot at the good stuff...but that would be a NO for me, as I dont want to see Lauri getting injured while e.g. one of the Atlanta picks hits.
Are they really that desperate for money? Now who do they fill those roster spots with?
Well, there is the chance that GS doesn’t care about crashing their franchise, and starts offering FRPs down the road that will have value. I don’t consider it very likely, but I accounted for it.
They’re currently below the floor, so
What are you basing Lauri wanting to transition to the Bay Area and identify as Warrior on?
Vassell is well into my red line territory in a Markkanen deal. But there's a path out there where Castle is the future SG, the Spurs pick up a dynamic scoring PG, and the Spurs get a forward star. Like the team might have Garland, Castle, Markkanen, Sochan, Wembanyama as their starting five. That's a much more traditional unit than PATFO seems like want, but on paper, it makes a fair bit of sense. You'd just want at least one of Castle and Sochan to be able to shoot at an NBA level.
Devin is the most efficient third star candidate, just as Johnson is the most efficient sixth-man candidate. Their roles are important. But there are other options.
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I don’t know many teams with efficient third stars that I’d pick over Vassell.
Boston has two: White and Jrue. Knicks have OG. Thunder have JWill. Most of the top teams last year mostly had a big two and then a bunch of role players. Don’t think Vassell is easily replaceable.
Vassell + SAS 2025 FRP OR ATL 2025 FRP which do you give up?
Wemby extension would take that team to the second apron. Vassell contract affords you to build a good team now and post Wemby rookie deal. If your slotting guys into pecking order + contract value. Wemby and Vassell are among the top guys as the 1st and 3rd option on the second apron era.
I don’t make that trade.
That wasn’t the question.
Today's July 24th edition of Locked On Jazz is led, "Is Lauri Markkanen's trade value increasing?"
I watched it, and Locke says another teams front office person already told him basically he couldn't believe the deals Ainge already turned down, and then Locke went on to say that cir stances of the teams interested should increase the value for Markkanen even though the price has already been high.
He did spend some time thinking out loud (while reading an outdated list of Spurs assets that included a 2027 Toronto top 7 protected pick?) ... Basically Keldon plus the Atlanta picks and a Spurs 29 pick, it was just stream of consciousness stuff
"No one's answering our craigslist ad for our used car. Is it because people want to pay more than we're asking for?" It's certainly a take.
I wonder if all three of us are involved. Where GS trades Kuminga to the Jazz and we trade the Jazz for Kuminga
That was, however, the answer.
Castle and Sochan in the same lineup is almost unplayable due to the lack of shooting...unless you expect Garland and Lauri to take almost nothing but 3 pointers.
Ainge tax is too high. Lauri would be a great fit, but he's not worth gutting our future
Did Lauri say he wants to play for the Warriors?
Unloading any combination of 4 picks should be something you do if you’re one piece away or returning a legitimate all star. I feel like that much juice could be used more effectively for two pieces rather than one or to move up in next years draft. 4 picks for Traore seems way more interesting.
this is basically where I'm at.
If Ainge wants more than a moderate haul, leave it to the Warriors or some other team whose legit star isn't 20 years old. Not saying Lauri wouldn't be a GREAT fit -- he absolutely would. But if he really wants to play here, simply don't extend and come sign here in 2025, bud. Plus at least you'll be able to drink a real beer here in Texas. No 2nd and 3rd wives tho, decisions decisions
The way he's been playing in Utah, Lauri is a legitimate all-star and a perfect fit next to Wemby.
Our 7 FRPs before Wemby and Castle wouldn't get us Lauri in a trade.
Good luck getting an all-star with two FRPs.I feel like that much juice could be used more effectively for two pieces rather than one
Noone is trading down from top5 next year.or to move up in next years draft. 4 picks for Traore seems way more interesting.
The thing is that we don't know what his actual requests are.
If Ainge wants more than a moderate haul, leave it to the Warriors or some other team whose legit star isn't 20 years old. Not saying Lauri wouldn't be a GREAT fit -- he absolutely would. But if he really wants to play here, simply don't extend and come sign here in 2025, bud. Plus at least you'll be able to drink a real beer here in Texas. No 2nd and 3rd wives tho, decisions decisions
Media people are there just to push narratives and agendas from each side.
Until the trade is made, we won't know if the asking price is too high.
I'm not going to lie, I'll lose my if Markkanen goes to Warriors for a reasonable price because trading away #8 pick and not taking a swing with any of those wing prospects will look awful.
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