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By the way, we don't have to guess which player Spurs send out. We all know it should be Keldon. There is no reason to send out quality young players since we have so many picks.
Dear Spurs friends,
I'm pretty confident that Lauri will be a Spur this summer based on the following reasonable assumptions:
1. Jazz wants to tank hard and will not extend Lauri.
2. None of our current compe ors can offer nearly as much as Spurs.
3. Lauri wants to play with Wemby and win multiple championships and be a national hero in Finland, like Manu in Argentina and Parker in France.
4. Lauri's fit with Spurs like match made in heaven. So, our front office will definitely try as hard as possible to get him.
5. Because of the 2nd Apron, only a few teams have room to extend or sign him next season.
Now, the question is price to pay - what are the FRPs. Let's have a compe ion. The winner(s) will get $200.
Here is my guess: Spurs 25, Spurs 27, Spurs 29, Min 30 Swap.
Rules:
1. Only guess the first Round Picks. No need to mention the second round picks.
2. I only have $200 to offer. So, if multiple guys guessed right, then you will share the $200. Maximum 4 guys. (I don't want to venmo too many times.)
3. You can still guess even if you don't think we can get him.
4. OK to agree with my above guess.
Have fun guys!
By the way, we don't have to guess which player Spurs send out. We all know it should be Keldon. There is no reason to send out quality young players since we have so many picks.
Hawks 25
Chicago 25
Hornets 25
Spurs 27
High likelihood Bulls pick doesn’t convey this year but has a better shot of conveying next year with the protections dropping to top 8. Hornets pick is throw in to give the appearance of receiving 4 1sts from the Spurs. No protections on the spurs 27.
Gonna stick with what I've been saying all along:
SA26 (w/ ATL swap attached)
SA28 (w/ BOS swap attached)
SA30 (w/ DAL and MIN swaps attached)
MIN31
Also, no need to mention protections. Your guess will be counted even if the final price does have protections.
Spurs 25
Chicago 25
Hornets 25
Spurs 27
+ Keldon
(but I personally would prefer to keep the powder dry)
Spurs 25
Hawks 26
Hornets 25
Spurs 27
Min 31
Plus Keldon
You can’t trade a swap. You have to trade the pick it’s attached to and the swap goes with, and you’ve already traded the Spurs 25, so you can’t trade Spurs 26 too.
CHI 25
CHA 25
Spurs 30 with DAL MIN swaps attached
MIN 31
Keldon
Zach
In John B's scenario, the Spurs could Trade SA25, SA26 (w ATL Swap) and SA27 and still be Stepien rule compliant because they have ATL25 and ATL27.
The Stepien rule only requires you not be left pickless in consecutive years, but it doesn't have to be your own pick.
I don't want Lauri for the following reasons:
1. He's already 27. He doesn't fit Wemby's timeline.
2. He's a second-tier star, certainly not at the level of a Parker or a Ginobili.
3. He's too expensive. We'd have to give up too many assets to acquire him.
For all these reasons, I think our best move is to be patient and wait for other opportunities to acquire younger, better stars in the future.
. I actually don’t hate that scenario,because it locks us into keeping the ATL pick to stay in Stepien compliance.
Because of the second apron, Wemby will have several timelines worth of players that will come in, play with him for 3-5 years, then be moved before they push us over the 2nd apron. Lauri will just be part of the first wave.
Spurs 26 w/ ATL swap
Hawks 27
Spurs 30 with DAL + MIN SWAP
Wolves 31
That trade would be highway robbery. Would be incredible to get Markannen for only a mid to late teens Spurs 25, two Charlotte seconds, a top 10 protected 25 Chicago first, and a Spurs 27 pick in the 20s.
at this point the Spurs should be robbing the Jazz, Ainge has nobody left to parlay with.
Dude is 27. Seems kind of wild to trade picks from years when he's going to be on a decline and may not even be starting material.
All you got to do is beat GSW. Mirror the structure of what they can offer then add a small bit more. That's it.
I would take out the 27 and add some seconds.
That's what he's worth anyway. No sense in bidding against yourself.
The Hornets 25 are your seconds.
I started weeks ago with CHI, CHA, and the worst of ATL out SAS in either 2025 or 2027 and I'd just stick there.
Spurs 25, Spurs 27, Spurs 29, Min 30 Swap
I'm sorry but I'm just not a fan of these multi picks and players for one guy trades. I know people will say its just the cost of doing business in the NBA these days, but if you think about it, it seems like the suns have a few salary regrets about trading for Durrant. The cavs also gave up a boatload of picks and players for Mitc - they haven't made it to the conference finals yet. The T-Wolves also gave up a lot to get Gobert and did manage to upset the Nuggets, but that's about it. The spurs even got into the action by duping the hawks into taking all star Murray for multiple picks, yet they just traded him away - another regretted trade after just two seasons.
So you see, it isn't always the smart move to do that type of lopsided trade, unless you're the team screwing the other team over. By the way, wasn't it Ainge that screwed the Cavs and the Wolves for all those players and picks. Should have know it would be a prick like him to start all that nonsense. Markkanen is a good player, I just don't think he's worth what Ainge is probably asking for. We can't be that desperate. Whomever trades for Markkanen will be in a hard place for a few years and Ainge will be laughing his ass all they way to the bank - again !
It's taken a lot of tanking to get those picks, surely we can do better than just one player for all that misery.
Keldon & Collins
CHI 25
CHA 25
SAS 27
SAS 29
Can’t trade a swap that you’ve acquired in trade. You have to trade the pick, and the swap goes with it. In that case, the 30 DAL swap would also go out, since it’s attached to that pick, too. I don’t think we hold any other 29 or 30 actual first rounders, so I don’t believe you can trade our 29 and 30, and stay in Stepien compliance.
Let’s revisit this discussion next summer. I bet the price will come down with Lauri making 45M a year.
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