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    Agreed except for Stockton, that system pg was overrated AF
    And it's arguable that his stats were generously padded by the local scorekeepers.

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    Mr. Body ITT


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    So let’s unpack that. Generally when a black man is referred to as an “Uncle Tom” it’s because he has views that differ from the black collective. Barkley isn’t the most articulate individual but he seems to recognize the fact he’s black and I haven’t seen him take up for non-whites in racial situations.

    What makes him an Uncle Tom?
    Barkley is an Uncle Tom because he constantly panders to whites. From slurping virtually every white people (while incessantly criticizing most black players) or predominately white sport (hockey, golf) to constantly downplaying the role of systemic racism in numerous viral incidents or events in recent years.


    "black collective" is a pretty loaded term in itself tbh

    Yeah, it is. Logically.

    Everyone has biases. This conversation should be in a different thread.
    Not only that, but it seemingly flies in the face of what he's saying in terms of many non blacks projecting groupthink among blacks.

    People always say that when threads go off the rails, but what's the alternative? As a veteran of these, it's best to let them resolve themselves of their own volition.


    This thread has taken an interesting turn
    All because of an honest mistake. I know a thing or two about derailing threads, but I'm not taking the blame for this one.

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    Barkley is an Uncle Tom because he constantly panders to whites. From slurping virtually every white people (while incessantly criticizing most black players) or predominately white sport (hockey, golf) to constantly downplaying the role of systemic racism in numerous viral incidents or events in recent years.




    Not only that, but it seemingly flies in the face of what he's saying in terms of many non blacks projecting groupthink among blacks.

    People always say that when threads go off the rails, but what's the alternative? As a veteran of these, it's best to let them resolve themselves of their own volition.




    All because of an honest mistake. I know a thing or two about derailing threads, but I'm not taking the blame for this one.
    The topic was never about non blacks projecting group think among blacks. It was about blacks ostracizing other blacks for views that differ among the majority. I’m assuming you’re black using terms like “coon” or “uncle tom”. That’s what made me want to unpack the thought further. This had nothing to do with non blacks until Mr.Body attempted to lecture me about my life experiences through second hand information. But I have said enough I’m not going to derail this thread any further.
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    My bad. But they did get eliminated by drexler.
    And Stockton got his ass handed to him by Terry Porter

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    People who use the term Uncle Tom are actually ignorant because he was actually the hero in the story. Yall should watch the two part do entary called Uncle Tom, it's very eye opening. And the Big Shift is a lie and never happened...a whole TWO dixiecrats switched and THATS IT! The rest died proud democrats.

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    Duke is back on a two-way, this one is a little surprising, but in a good way

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    Duke is back on a two-way, this one is a little surprising, but in a good way
    Where does that leave us in terms of two-way contracts left to offer?

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    Where does that leave us in terms of two-way contracts left to offer?
    1 left, probably for Ingram

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    Where does that leave us in terms of two-way contracts left to offer?
    For the 2024-25 season, each NBA team is permitted to have up to three players under Two-Way Contracts on its roster at any time (in addition to the maximum 15 players under Standard NBA Contracts).

    I guess Ingram and Duke are two-way contracts as of now?
    One more spot left?
    Edit: Or not, I missed Bouyea getting a two-way.


    *screenshot since tweet won't embed

    Damn, 210/10 contract.
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    Is that legit? If so, when did that contract start? And if that contract is real, I don't think I need to hear him complaining about how much money he missed out on in his playing days.

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    I love this trade, because these are two guys I often confuse for each other

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    A little tidbit about Bassey and Mamu:

    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/...rt-bassey.html

    Spurs center Charles Bassey gave up his right to veto a trade during the 2024/25 league year, Hoops Rumors has learned. A player who re-signs with his previous team on a one-year contract (or a two-year deal with a second-year option) is typically given a de facto no-trade clause for the season, but that right can be waived as part of a contract agreement.
    https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/07/...elashvili.html

    Sandro Mamukelashvili‘s one-year, minimum-salary deal with the Spurs is fully guaranteed, Hoops Rumors has confirmed. Mamukelashvili also waived his right to veto a trade.
    If Spurs trade one of them later this season to match salaries, they won't have to worry about Bassey and/or Mamu agreeing to it.

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    I love this trade, because these are two guys I often confuse for each other
    Like when the wrong Brooks got traded from Memphis to Phoenix?

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    Like when the wrong Brooks got traded from Memphis to Phoenix?
    No. Phoenix ASKED for the wrong Books, Marshawn, and then tried to get Dillon, and Memphis refused. The deal never actually went through.

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    Very interesting Bassey and Mamu willingly became tradeable assets

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    Mamu and Bassey likely waived their trade clauses because they got guaranteed contracts. It’s an easy decision for them.

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    Very interesting Bassey and Mamu willingly became tradeable assets
    To me that's not as interesting as the Spurs making sure to get this as part of their deals. They're in the range that one of them can combine with Paul or Jones to bring back a decent player.

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    The problem with your statement is that white men or any other race of people aren’t calling each other “Uncle Toms” and questioning each other’s ethnicity because they disagree. The problem in the black community if you have an opinion that’s different from the black collective as a whole you are ostracized from it….especially at the lower end of the socioeconomic ladder. I should’ve used the word “racial” instead of “personal”.

    The blacks from academia who have examined this phenomenon in an honest way such as Larry Elder and Dr. Ben Carson have been called sellouts.
    I get your point, and that's true to some extend, but I'm not sure that in today's societies where individualism is the rule and everyone build their own little "intellectual" and ideological world (eventually distorded, or entirely build through social media) that phenomena is as global or evident than what some sociologits want it to be (from someone who studied sociology).

    Our societes have dramatically and brutally changed this past decade, and people are less and less determined or ideoligically impacted by their communities, will it be racial or socioeconomic... they just think or do what the they want.. There are blakc dems, black republicans, even black trumpers.

    I believe ideology is what polarize people more than anything now whatever their community, which Trump perfectly understood and is exploiting to death. You also have white people calling themselves names or being ostracized in their families, friend circle or work for being trumpers or anti Trump.
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    Take that conversation to DMs, I jump into a thread thinking some new updates possibly. Nope just some takes on America's oldest profession that everyone detests.

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    Wasn't he looking for a 20M/y contract a few months ago?

    Brutal tbh...


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    Keldon Johnson just posted a cryptic IG with a hush emoji and a full battery charge emoji. WHAT DOES IT MEAN??

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