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Sure, let's keep all 500 draft picks we currently own so that we can wait for the next best player out of the 2031 draft. I love how fans of a 22 win team think the team needs to be conservative.
Lauri is more valuable locked up for 5 years, and in 3, that contract will look like nothing.
Sure, let's keep all 500 draft picks we currently own so that we can wait for the next best player out of the 2031 draft. I love how fans of a 22 win team think the team needs to be conservative
SA28 (w/ BOS swap attached)
SA30 (w/ DAL and MIN swaps attached)
MIN31
With a couple of SRPs
CHI 25
CHA 25
SA 30 (with swaps)
MIN 31
+ Zach Collins
I actually doubt they trade Keldon. I know people here on him, but I suspect that he's much more liked inside the organization.
'25 CHI
'26 SAS/ATL
'30 SAS/DAL/MIN
'31 MIN
One ATL pick has to go as the most valuable asset. I had a hard time deciding between '26 and '27, but Jazz has 4 FRPs in '27 and '26 class is stacked.
Picks involving MIN allow Ainge to control their future over the next 7 years and I think those are guaranteed to go.
'25 is interesting, if Jazz wants ATL pick, then Spurs can't trade '26 one, but '25 ATL is arguably the least valuable since Trae can opt out after this season.
I think it's definitely going to be both MIN picks, one high value ATL pick and one more mediocre pick.
If we add a fifth pick, then we get back some of theirs to effectively trade down.
For example trading down from '26 ATL/SAS to CLE/MIN.
ATL isn’t going to keep Trae until he opts out and leaves in 26, which is his opt out year. He’ll be traded sometime in the next 12 months, making that 26 pick GOLD. Swap the 28 SA with the BOS swap for that one, and I like it.
That's the problem.
You like it, I like it, Spurs would like it, but we're not getting Markkanen without one of those ATL picks going the other way.
As I said before, Hawks should keep treadmilling and odds of them improving are really low, but with a third of the conference blatantly tanking and them having no reason to do so, they're not going to be a top5 worst team in the next three years.
Not wanting to lose games is automatic +10 Ws in my book.
If Hawks picks don't have top5 odds, odds of that pick moving up and becoming better than Markkanen are really low.
Utah gets
Gregg Pop
Keldon
Malaki Branham
SA30 (w/ DAL and MIN swaps attached)
Yep just like Zach laVine. oh wait NVM.
Just because we have them doesnt mean we need to spend and get rid of them either. Be smart with them if it is not the right deal for us dont make it. Dont be focused on getting a certain player at all cost. This is how Ainge has been able to get all these picks he is willing to wait.Sure, let's keep all 500 draft picks we currently own so that we can wait for the next best player out of the 2031 draft. I love how fans of a 22 win team think the team needs to be conservative
Lauri would be a great fit but isn't worth a superstar trade Ainge is expecting
End of the story (for this summer) imo
I think they do this the OKC style way...
Best pick of 2025 unprotected
2026 pick with swap unprotected
Best pick of 2027 unprotected
3 Misc second round picks all from 25-27)
So entire trade is over after '27 season.
You're a ing re somehow finding a way to make an even worse offer than all three Atlanta picks
Cool, let him be valuable to Utah at that price. San Antonio shouldn’t give up much value honestly (max, Keldon and 2 protected FRPs).
Ainge squandered Utah’s leverage, and is simply using the Spurs to play a failing game of chicken with the Warriors.
You think that will be enough, though?
I think we might have to throw in Wemby to make it work, but even then there’s a salary matching issue. Maybe we can throw in Vassell and Castle, if we’re willing to take back John Collins— think he still has value, and we can flip him at the deadline for 6 SRPs, no?
That's 5 years of drafting.
8 FRPs and 5 SRPs.
Out of all those players, Devin is the only piece who would be seen as a valuable asset in Markkanen trade.
I know fans are always subjective and want their team to win every trade, but some of you people are so out of touch when it comes to evaluating players and picks in a trade.
It's not even just about the player ability, but all the other factors that are perfect in this situation.
Timeline, fit, contract (Markkanen's would allign with Devin's and Castle's extensions) and availability.
As I said last night, if we don't get Markkanen or maybe Naz Reid, we're not getting a high end wing in the next few years without gutting our roster unless we draft one.
who cares.
I agree with the “unless we draft one” part at the end of your rant. We are aligned there.
That's 5 years of drafting.
8 FRPs and 5 SRPs.
Out of all those players, Devin is the only piece who would be seen as a valuable asset in Markkanen trade.
I know fans are always subjective and want their team to win every trade, but some of you people are so out of touch when it comes to evaluating players and picks in a trade.
It's not even just about the player ability, but all the other factors that are perfect in this situation.
Timeline, fit, contract (Markkanen's would allign with Devin's and Castle's extensions) and availability.
As I said last night, if we don't get Markkanen or maybe Naz Reid, we're not getting a high end wing in the next few years without gutting our roster unless we draft one.
Take out 1 of the picks and Im ok with 3 of 4 from this group. But 3 firsts max for Lauri or we walk.
If you trade spurs 25 we still own hawks 25, so we can trade our 2026 pick which right now would be designated as “the better between the SAS and ATL 2026 frp
I know we want Markkanen, but does Utah really need to trade him considering they have multiple picks they got from Cleveland and Minny. Seems almost unfair to give them even more. My guess is that they end up like OKC having a ton of picks in one draft but not being able to use all of them since they may not have available open positions on the team.
Problem is those near term CLE and MIN picks are going to be in the 20s, so don't really help them with their immediate goal, which is finding a #1 to rebuild around. They have extra picks to land them Blake Wesley's and Branhams, they need more shots at a Wemby.
He's very well liked from everything we have heard. But so was George Hill.
So crap and crap for an allstar?
I take your point, draft picks are valued much more in the abstract before they're made than the actual players taken.
That's 5 years of drafting.
8 FRPs and 5 SRPs.
Most would trade your chosen 5 year range for LM. You dropped 2023 though, and no-one would trade the LAST 5 years picks for LM!
Unprotected picks > protected picks, I wouldn't be offering more than 1 unprotected.
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