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    Funny when democrats talk about bone spurs when ole Billy Clinton dodged the draft and you liberals loved him and voted and elected him twice,,,,you even wanted his wife as president even though she lied about coming under fire in a helicopter,,,,lmao

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    Wasn't the Biden/Harris ticket a middle finger to the progressive wing of the party too?
    Yeah, I said in 2020 it was a win/win election when you decided to go ridin with Biden and that the progressive wing was destroying itself. I think it's great that you Dems are becoming McCain/Dubya type republicans.

    I think the only question is will progressives grow a spine or continue to take it like cucks. Probably continue to be cucks is my guess.
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    Problem is, John McCain especially with a D next to his name is very electable. Maybe not if Obama is your opponent, but it's generally true.

    The problem for the Dems with Kamala is that even though she has an extremely progressive voting record as Senator and comes off as progressive in the Biden admin years she's also going to get hammered to death for flip flopping for being the law and order California AG she was prior to going woke. She's trying to play both sides on the Israel issue which hurt Biden and Kamala is seen as anti Israel already. She's not seen as particularly smart or well spoken. She'll do alright with the resistlib base but seriously how many men are going to be enthused to turn out for her? Even black men under 50. White married women that do in fact have kids and aren't childless cat ladies can't stand her either. Suburban wine moms who have actually birthed children won't relate to her either. She'll certainly drive up turnout on the childless cat lady vote, but were they ever voting Republican anyway... ? Nope.
    All good points

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    Yeah, I said in 2016 it was a win/win election when you decided to go ridin with Biden and that the progressive wing was destroying itself. I think it's great that you Dems are becoming McCain/Dubya type republicans.

    I think the only question is will progressives grow a spine or continue to take it like cucks. Probably continue to be cucks is my guess.
    So it didn't work for you last time but maybe this time if you wish hard enough.

    Sounds familiar.

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    He's John McCain with a D next to his name.
    Ughh... This is based on what?

    A Kamala/Kelly ticket is a middle finger to the progressive wing of the party.
    Too bad.

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    Yeah, I said in 2020 it was a win/win election when you decided to go ridin with Biden and that the progressive wing was destroying itself. I think it's great that you Dems are becoming McCain/Dubya type republicans.

    I think the only question is will progressives grow a spine or continue to take it like cucks. Probably continue to be cucks is my guess.
    ROFL progressive wing of the Democrats, that's a token few members. They're virtually all center-right to right wing and have been since Clinton took over the party in 92 and every time someone to the left of Clinton runs Pelosi and Clyburn crush them (see Jessica Cisneros in TX-28).

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    Biden and Hillary both were, but the Dem establishment is smart enough to understand that the "progressive / bernie wing" is a vocal minority, not what wins elections. You win elections by winning over independents and moderates, not by alienating them.
    No, you win elections by winning over donors so you have money to blast the airwaves with whatever wedge issue you can use to distract from the fact you serve the donors and not the voters. That's what makes candidates like Bernie unelectable.

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    Yep Citizens United has left us with two parties:

    1. The "Maintain the Status Quo for Inheritance Billionaires" Party.

    2. The "Funnel Even More Wealth to Inheritance Billionaires" Party.

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    Yep Citizens United has left us with two parties:

    1. The "Maintain the Status Quo for Inheritance Billionaires" Party.

    2. The "Funnel Even More Wealth to Inheritance Billionaires" Party.
    Happened way before Citizens United. Has been like that since Clinton took the party hard to the right in response to losing because of Willie Horton and a stupid tank photo.

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    Former astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly started spy balloon company funded by China
    Kelly, 60, is a former astronaut and US Navy captain who has represented Arizona in the US Senate since 2020

    A great think mark has done
    Yeah !!!!

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    Former astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly started spy balloon company funded by China
    Kelly, 60, is a former astronaut and US Navy captain who has represented Arizona in the US Senate since 2020

    A great think mark has done
    Yeah !!!!
    Neat, don't vote for him then. But you'll still vote for Trump even though his China ties are worse.

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    Former astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly started spy balloon company funded by China
    Kelly, 60, is a former astronaut and US Navy captain who has represented Arizona in the US Senate since 2020

    A great think mark has done
    Yeah !!!!
    MSM won't count that now, they already made their dollar & a dime offin' it when it occurred.

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    Former astronaut Sen. Mark Kelly started spy balloon company funded by China
    Kelly, 60, is a former astronaut and US Navy captain who has represented Arizona in the US Senate since 2020

    A great think mark has done
    Yeah !!!!
    Yeah u scared.

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    ...less than a quarter of a inch will get your attention.


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    No, you win elections by winning over donors so you have money to blast the airwaves with whatever wedge issue you can use to distract from the fact you serve the donors and not the voters. That's what makes candidates like Bernie unelectable.
    Unfortunately in America even the average democrat voter is not fiscally progressive, only socially and politically. Until a majority or at least plurality of the country becomes fiscally liberal, nothing will change.

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    Happened way before Citizens United. Has been like that since Clinton took the party hard to the right in response to losing because of Willie Horton and a stupid tank photo.
    Come to think about it... it was about a half decade before my time on Earth, but was that from where the origin of the term "tanking" came from, e.g. tanking to lose in sports or something bad "tanking" someone's political campaign? The Dukakis 1988 tank picture.

    Sort of like how every scandal became "-gate" after Watergate

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    Unfortunately in America even the average democrat voter is not fiscally progressive, only socially and politically. Until a majority or at least plurality of the country becomes fiscally liberal, nothing will change.
    The Progressive Economic Crash of 2008 says hi

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    Come to think about it... it was about a half decade before my time on Earth, but was that from where the origin of the term "tanking" came from, e.g. tanking to lose in sports or something bad "tanking" someone's political campaign? The Dukakis 1988 tank picture.

    Sort of like how every scandal became "-gate" after Watergate
    The old Snoopy moment. And then Bush2 turned out to be a LARGE RINO, the sucker was in bed with the D's the whole time. Trump besting Clinton drew him out in the open. He couldn't brook it.

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    Mark Kelly's qualifications: Turning AZ Blue, triggering magas/poorly educated, and causing them restless nights!!!!

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    Mark Kelly's qualifications: Turning AZ Blue, triggering magas/poorly educated, and causing them restless nights!!!!
    You couldn't drag me away.

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