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FRA holding GER like the Maginot Line
Is Wemby quiet quitting by just hanging at the 3 point line, or is that the offensive game plan?
FRA holding GER like the Maginot Line
Germany playing a modern 5 out offense and getting any shot they want, while France regularly have two players in the paint at any point. There can be only one winner.
France has the personnel LEAST equipped to play “your turn, my turn” offense. This is simply trash coaching. Sorry FranceFan friends.
he doesnt have a legit post-up game, and is too tall to put the ball on the floor consistently against defenders that are actually trying. its much easier to look good when hes playing against crap compe ion, when no one in the NBA has any fear of his team, or when there is nothing at stake.
He has post-up game when he can get the ball in the paint. He doesn't have enough strength to back down anyone.
This coaching is legit disgusting.
He benches Gobert only to play 6'7 Gobert in his place and still have awful spacing.
It’s deeper than that. It feels like there is a clear pecking order on that team and Wemby is very deferential to it. His teammate treat him like this spurs teammates did at the start of the season.
Reminds me of this moment:
https://x.com/BalaPattySZN/status/1738034060696367365
wembys to weak physically and mentally. far from win now player.
This might be a bit of an overreaction, but Spurs maybe need to get another top 4 pick this season. Victor needs to add strength. He's getting bullied by everyone. Can't back anyone down.
he has a turnaround to shoot over the top of defenders and thats it. his moves and footwork are pretty mediocre.
unless he gets considerably stronger, or develops a good medium range hook shot, he will always be limited against better defenders.
The case in point was the play just now when they ran the offense through him in the post and got that Fournier 3 out of it.
I think they are the second best team. Only Team USA would win most games of a series against them. If Germany has a bad day from three, Canada can beat them as well, but I see them at #2 overall.
Right, cool. Looking at the records and the few games I watch (I saw Canada against Australia game, and Germany today for the first time against France), to me, those three look like the potential top 3 finishing teams. No idea where they'll all finish apart from US highly likely winning Gold, but it seems that both Germany and Canada have a shot at making the gold medal game where anything can happen. Congrats on the win btw.
Germany was either gold or silver at the World Cup. They’re legit.
And the GNT is nowhere near as good as the average contender. Wemby isn't "some help" away from winning a ring. He's years of development away from being in a position to use help. The Spurs look to be giving him that time, and I can't imagine this summer is giving them second thoughts about that. I'd love them to get a mentor big for Victor to learn from, Markkanen shouldn't even be on their radar.
Bookmarking some of these hot takes. It’s like spurstalkers completely forgot about how dominant Wemby was last season. He’s experiencing the same problems with the French team as he experienced with the Spurs—he’s surrounded by a bunch of scrubs.
One thing he does need to improve on is to stop being so deferential to bad teammates. Just because they’ve been there longer than you doesn’t mean you owe them anything
I don't buy into the whole "Wemby wants to win now or will leave" nonsense like most folks...but if there is any truth to that, hopefully this experience has been humbling for him. France was touted as one of the top teams in this tourney and has been mediocre so far. Should be a reminder that he, alone, doesn't guarantee success and that winning is a process.
I think there's a issue mixing up folks recognizing Wemby's talent and folks not recognizing that it takes more than talent to be the centerpiece of a le team. Scapegoating his teammates rather than recognizing the reality of development taking time is just a coping mechanism.
Victor is 20 years old. Refusing to understand what that really means does not make one a bigger fan.
Last edited by Chinook; 08-02-2024 at 04:43 PM.
I think he WANTS to win now. Who doesn't? But I think the edge people put on it is fanficking. He doesn't hate his teammates and knows it's a process. The wildcard is his group and how they see things.
I would have loved Embiid to play for the France team. Su ious behavior, no racing, no involvement in team play, that was the iden y of the France team. It would have helped the team be even more ridiculous.
Wemby can't be option 1. Instead of trying to compete for the low post, he'd be better off staying mobile. He has no chance of having the ball low post hoping to keep the position if the position is contested, especially when he himself is not looking at the guard who could possibly give him the ball. It's too static. Always the same impression of seeing five chess enthusiasts come in suits and ties debating in a club with pipes in their mouths to know which move to adopt while the five opposite players are playing boxing.
At one point we saw Albicy speak at a timeout where Collet was relegated behind, and as if by chance, then it was Cordinier who finally began to attack the opposing guards. Collet's tactic is to avoid all contacts in the hope that with a little Macron-style diplomacy the adversaries will begin to fall asleep. At least, we saw a guard break this soporific logic (even Victor ended up refusing contact and increasing the number of outside shots, he almost plays SF). Canadian will enjoy playing against old chess enthusiasts. (Rudy should have been ejected, I guess he was tired of being asked to play like Jokic.)
That's a somewhat weird take for me. Has Wemby been great in the Olympics? no. Has the team around him been playing any good and well coached basketball? no. Your post sounds like you think it would be a good thing for Wemby's development to not surround him with better players than he currently has around him.
I don't even quite get your line of reasoning: Wemby is years away from being in a position to lead a team pushing for the playoffs but getting better players like (for example) Markannen to help his development by increasing the quality around him is bad also?
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Victor is closer to David Robinson then he is to a Tim Duncan type of player. When I say this, I don't mean his style of play is exactly like David's but like David he is not ever going to be a post up big man. He's a face up scorer who also needs his jump shot to be falling for him to really dominate the game. I think over time his jump shot will get more consistent but when his shot isn't falling, he's very limited when it comes to getting easy buckets outside of lobs and putbacks.
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