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    1 for 8 is a pretty good hit rate for top tier free agents and trade targets.

    I think the Markkanen scenarios generated a lot of good discussion, which is what this site should be all about.
    Nah, just generated bunch of people wasting valuable, precious time

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    overpay & pull the trigger tbh.

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    Shams confirmed.


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    So Lauri gets the max and can't be traded.... That's the 2nd best scenario for us, so I can't be disappointed. I'm guessing the owner had quite a bit of input on this as he wants to win now. Now I have to wonder if Ainge throws his hands up and trades for more win now guys or goes the middling route banking on a deep upcoming draft?

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    Well, it was a fun ride.
    RIP to all of us Lauri fans, but don't worry haters, we'll be back sooner than you think.

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    All the chatter, outside of this board, seems to be focused on the warriors. Are the spurs even that interested? Is this speculation even wilder than we thought?


    Probably for a few days until they heard what Ainge wanted. Then it was up to the Warriors to overpay, which they almost did. This whole thread was just peak spurstalk.

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    so the #8 gifted pick...

    was just another spurs fail....

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    so the #8 gifted pick...

    was just another spurs fail....
    You’re a ing idiot. We traded a top 6 protected pick for an unprotected one, plus a #1 protected swap. Grow up, and learn the concept of delayed gratification. All adults understand that.

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    You’re a ing idiot. We traded a top 6 protected pick for an unprotected one, plus a #1 protected swap. Grow up, and learn the concept of delayed gratification. All adults understand that.
    It wasn’t a top 6 protected pick anymore. It had already conveyed as a #8 overall pick.

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    You’re a ing idiot. We traded a top 6 protected pick for an unprotected one, plus a #1 protected swap. Grow up, and learn the concept of delayed gratification. All adults understand that.

    you seem agitated for zero reason…

    spurs dropped the ball

    i had zero to do with this up

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    You’re a ing idiot. We traded a top 6 protected pick for an unprotected one, plus a #1 protected swap. Grow up, and learn the concept of delayed gratification. All adults understand that.
    For now the trade seems fine.
    But if one of those wings that were available at #8 develops into a high end starter, someone in scouting department will have to answer because there's no doubt Spurs would've picked Buzelis or Williams if they thought they were worth it.
    They didn't, now we have to wait a year or two to see who made the right call.

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    you seem agitated for zero reason…

    spurs dropped the ball

    i had zero to do with this up
    They dropped nothing, except maybe you on your head as a baby,

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    Why is Marka "untradeable" for the 24-25 season?

    Some CBA deal where 1st year of max you have to stay with your team?

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    Just to make this official:

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    Why is Marka "untradeable" for the 24-25 season?

    Some CBA deal where 1st year of max you have to stay with your team?
    It all comes down to the timing of the extension. If you, a hypothetical NBA player, are extended for two or more additional seasons and receive a salary increase of greater than five percent, you are automatically ineligible to be traded for the next six calendar months.

    Let's do some mental math here. Reports that Markkanen would be extended emerged on Tuesday, Aug. 6. Six months from Aug. 6 is Feb. 6, 2025—a date that happens to be the league's trade deadline next season.
    https://www.si.com/nba/why-lauri-mar...h-new-contract

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    Lol

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    So be it.lets go after naz reid or ingram next offseason.Gonna have to overpay,But we need to upgrade,Especially if sochan,vassell and our
    other young players dont improve this season.

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    So Lauri gets the max and can't be traded.... That's the 2nd best scenario for us, so I can't be disappointed. I'm guessing the owner had quite a bit of input on this as he wants to win now. Now I have to wonder if Ainge throws his hands up and trades for more win now guys or goes the middling route banking on a deep upcoming draft?
    Best case scenario IMO:

    Lauri hero balls Utah into the play-in, where they are humiliated. Jazz have their #13 pick go to OKC, who uses it on some injured eastern European who never makes an impact on the league. The Jazz are stuck in mediocrity forever. Lauri demands a trade in two years, but now he's about to be 30 so he can be had for a single FRP. Spurs pick him up at the deadline as a finishing piece. les ensue.

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    Also... just pointing out that this is exactly the kind of report that "inside sources" would tell you if you're taking one last gasp at getting your desired trade return.

    Anyway, I can't wait to see who emerges as a trade target going forward.

    Also looking forward to keeping tabs on the Jazz subreddit when they fail to tank hard enough.

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    So be it.lets go after naz reid or ingram next offseason.Gonna have to overpay,But we need to upgrade,Especially if sochan,vassell and our
    other young players dont improve this season.
    no to Ingram.
    Those Minnesota picks might come in handy because they won't be able to keep both Naz and McDaniels. I expect them to trade McDaniels and keep Naz, unless they find a suitor for KAT.
    I'd be happy with returning their pick and swap for McDaniels if he continues improving this season.

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    Best case scenario IMO:

    Lauri hero balls Utah into the play-in, where they are humiliated. Jazz have their #13 pick go to OKC, who uses it on some injured eastern European who never makes an impact on the league. The Jazz are stuck in mediocrity forever. Lauri demands a trade in two years, but now he's about to be 30 so he can be had for a single FRP. Spurs pick him up at the deadline as a finishing piece. les ensue.
    unless Giannis is ready to leave the Bucks at this same time and the Spurs are on his list of desired landing spots.

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    so the #8 gifted pick...

    was just another spurs fail....
    You’re a ing idiot. We traded a top 6 protected pick for an unprotected one, plus a #1 protected swap. Grow up, and learn the concept of delayed gratification. All adults understand that.
    It wasn’t a top 6 protected pick anymore. It had already conveyed as a #8 overall pick.
    I wish we could discuss the MIN trade in a calm and rational manner around here. There is just too much hyperbole for folks to look at this deal objectively.

    Obviously we did not give it away for nothing, but ex's framing of the trade is also purposely misleading, which spurraider points out.

    I'll continue to say that the trade in concept was fine, but the return on assets was subpar. It clearly signals a lack of high interest in any of the guys left on the board, which I find stunning and almost cowardly. C'est la vie.

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    no to Ingram.
    Those Minnesota picks might come in handy because they won't be able to keep both Naz and McDaniels. I expect them to trade McDaniels and keep Naz, unless they find a suitor for KAT.
    I'd be happy with returning their pick and swap for McDaniels if he continues improving this season.
    I'm sure there will be some guys who aren't on the radar at all right now who will emerge this season. They always do. We'll just have to roll with it until then.

    Unless McDaniels shows some significant, sustainable improvement in his 3P shot, I'm not super excited about him.

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    I wish we could discuss the MIN trade in a calm and rational manner around here. There is just too much hyperbole for folks to look at this deal objectively.

    Obviously we did not give it away for nothing, but ex's framing of the trade is also purposely misleading, which spurraider points out.

    I'll continue to say that the trade in concept was fine, but the return on assets was subpar. It clearly signals a lack of high interest in any of the guys left on the board, which I find stunning and almost cowardly. C'est la vie.
    It's possible that the Spurs really did make the Dillingham trade with the idea of putting together an attractive package for Markkanen that included giving the Jazz control over the Wolves' draft all the way through 20131, but then couldn't talk Ainge down enough to pull the trigger.

    But that probably gives PATFO too much benefit of the doubt.

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    It's possible that the Spurs really did make the Dillingham trade with the idea of putting together an attractive package for Markkanen that included giving the Jazz control over the Wolves' draft all the way through 20131, but then couldn't talk Ainge down enough to pull the trigger.

    But that probably gives PATFO too much benefit of the doubt.
    Yeah it wouldn't surprise me if they did this move thinking it would better position to make SOME trade this summer (though Chinook's theory that we needed to move off #8 to have room to TRADE FOR CP3 makes sense too). We'll never know.

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