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Looks like Jazz really want to compete. So, trading for Trae Young is not out of the question. Do it Ainge! You're so smart!
That kind of salary will be hard trade. Good luck Ainge!
Looks like Jazz really want to compete. So, trading for Trae Young is not out of the question. Do it Ainge! You're so smart!
My question is, how is this iteration of the Jazz better than the Mitc /Gobert version? If they don’t care about actually contending, they had a better team before.
An espn article written a couple of days ago:
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...ract-extension
So:The San Antonio Spurs had preliminary discussions before the NBA draft in June with the Jazz about a deal that would pair Markkanen with 2023 No. 1 pick Victor Wembanyama, but those talks did not gain any traction.
- Since it was before the draft and Spurs have traded away the 8th pick, it seems likely that Spurs were looking to offer #4 and/or #8 to get Markkannen.
- Spurs were likely very far from what Utah was asking for Markkanen.
This would be amazing, but certainly not even ATL can be this stupid
A lot of people will criticize or scoff at the 91+ pages of this thread... but boys and girls, we had fun discussing it in the deadest part of the NBA calendar. Let's do it again next July.
Luka will have one year left on his deal (plus a player option) next summer and thus be looking for an extension... let's start that thread going now.
17 ppg and 34% overall shooting with defense.
The way things have shaken out, has anyone considered that both GS & SA, by refusing to give Ainge everything he wanted, basically forced him to reup Markannen for huge $$$$ & thus ensuring that Utah will remain non compe ive for the foreseeable future and yet being just good enough to remain out of the lottery?
Depends on how you want to say it. Ainge was looking for a ransom, expected a bigger market, thought that maybe OKC would start tossing out draft picks, and none of it happened. Now Utah has to pretend parading their star around like the kid in Oliver Twist all summer then resigning him was always the plan.
Barring major moves Utah won't be out of the lottery with our without Markkanen. They have 6 rookies and sop res on a 13-man roster right now and they owe a top 10 protected pick to OKC, they'll be bad. Markkanen, as good as he is and as good a fit as he would have been on the Spurs, isn't the kind of player who'll drag a bad roster to a play in spot or to the playoffs.
Like a new car driving out the lot, Lauri signing this particular deal automatically dropped his value. The question will be how much value will it keep at resale time.
name your player who was availble at 8. only cowards bet the field. Part of the trade was that the spurs likely didn't want anyone at that point and took salary flexibility instead.
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there were some players there which the spurs could have developed - instead of gifting away a prime opportunity for an unknown 2031 pick which they will probably trade away anyway
It's a gamble by Utah. If Markkanen gets injured or only plays 55 games or has a meh season, the shine will quickly come off him playing for a late lottery team.
I think it was a locker room issue between Mitc and Gobert. Didn't they not like each other?
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Two FRPs at most.
This is being overblown on multiple fronts . . .
1) It was never happening with the overly conservative Spurs and obvious a while ago that it wasn't happening period, hence the media whining and attention starved (Draymond) Green patting himself on the back and pretending he had some role in this.
2) As good as Markkanen is, he's not nearly good enough to prevent them from finishing with goodish odds at a top 5 pick and they can always tank in season to nudge the odds further.
3) He could easily end up back on the market in 1-2 years.
I've explained this ad nauseam, people like you and your ilk just didn't like the answer.
The hypocrisy/irony of incessantly complaining about someone else's supposed fixation is lost on you holier than though types.
Mitc was pissed about Gobert acting like a moron about COVID and giving it to him.
People aren't ready for the price that Luka would command. If he were available today his baseline price would be Castle plus all of the ATL picks.
Let's get the conversation started. Some of the most conservative Spurs fans are always harping about how Player X isn't worth it, we need to keep our powder dry for Luka or Giannis... I'd love to see them squirm at the prices for these guys in a trade, just for kicks.
The fact is lots of Spurs fans don't want to partake in any trade unless we clearly rob the other team. They think Branham plus the CHA pick is what we should give up for someone like Lauri. They think Sochan is untouchable. They just don't have the appe e to do what it takes to acquire good players.
I don't think he goal is to trade him anytime soon.
Utah wants to build around him. They have a ridiculous amount of assets
Yup. You're not getting Luka for Bridges or Siakam prices. The Spurs will have to go way over their price tags.
I can already hear stupid arguments that Luka wont command as much as we think because only so many teams have picks that they can offer. Don't think for a second that Denver wouldn't offer Murray plus a bunch of picks for Luka. Ditto the Kings and Fox or including Sabonis for Giannis for example. The price will be staggering.
With regard to #2, I understand that he won’t miss games for the tank anymore at least he supposedly said that. I think they will be right back at around #10 like last year and there will be a threat to losing their pick to Okc again. And thus they will once again miss out on all the potential stars getting drafted in the top 5 range.
with regard to #3, now that he’s a 40-50 mil player for the next five years I just don’t see much of a trade market any more. The new CBA seems to really discourage teams from getting expensive players. I’m not sure he’s even worth that. He just doesn’t seem to have the impact of a 50mil player. I’d say in all likely hood they are probably stuck with him until his last year as a possible expiring trade.
Yup... but he's probably good enough to keep them out of the bottom 5. There's also a decent chance that they are better than Atlanta....that's not a surething, but it's now possible...
I have serious doubts the Spurs actually offered 4 in any type of Lauri deal. They seemed bent on drafting Castle so I don't see them giving up that chance.
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