You an ex are trying to rewrite history. Fultz was considered the obvious #1 pick and Tatum was considered high floor low ceiling. Nothing obvious about getting him with a #1 pick at the time.
He definitely deserves credit for seeing through Fultz and getting the best player in the draft at #3 in Tatum while getting an extra pick (#8 in the 2018 draft) out of the deal too. Everyone else loved Fultz.
You an ex are trying to rewrite history. Fultz was considered the obvious #1 pick and Tatum was considered high floor low ceiling. Nothing obvious about getting him with a #1 pick at the time.
I agree that Ainge deserves a lot of credit for building that foundation in Brown and Tatum... but I'll also say that was a lifetime ago, in NBA terms. When Brown and Tatum were draft, the Spurs were still a 67 and 61 win championship contending team.
The same way I'll say that PATFO used to be among the best drafting FOs in the league, Ainge was also making great picks. But neither PATFO or Ainge really deserve that kind of credit today.
Eh. People like you swear that James Wiseman was considered the top pick of his draft, too. Anyway, no one's talking about the top picks Ainge made. Like literally the post was ing about later picks.
No, your post literally said obvious top picks. Tatum was not an obvious top pick.
It was the last time he had high end picks. The only top 10 picks Utah has had since he got there were #10 this year and #9 last year.
Yeah, but that also speaks to his GM'ing (or technically, CEO'ing) in Utah. All he's done (much like all Wright has done) has tear down the team. Right now, Ainge doesn't have to show for it, at least Brian has landed Wemby. But my point is (and I feel like we've had this discussion before), neither of these guys has delivered success on the basketball court for their current projects. And after giving Lauri the max, I'm not sure if Ainge is going to find it. We'll see if Utah can find a way to be worse than I think.
In 24 hours went into full rebuild mode. Yes, hands were tied etc, but he still did it. Would Wright have traded for DDR and done the same slow anti rebuild? We will never know, but I'm thinking more likely that than anything quick and drastic.
Lol, man. Ex says that Ainge got the top picks right.
You're saying "but he didn't pick the wrong picks."
Yeah, that's ing what getting the top picks right means.
Do you ever listen to yourself?![]()
Yeah I don't know how there's any debate on this aspect. It's crystal clear a bold and smart move that paid off
Ex said obvious top picks. Do you want me to go quote the post? Tatum was not an obvious pick, quit fighting this to the death. Ainge made a franchise changing call going against the grain and seeing more in Tatum when the consensus was that Fultz was the star of the draft and you want to be a little hater and not give him credit for it.
I think he got dealt a hand with Mitc trying to force his way to the Knicks in an era where teams were becoming powerless against their stars. I don't really know what to make of him holding onto Markannen since I don't know what the Spurs offered. If it was say Keldon, 20131, 2030, and the Spurs 2025 I can see why Ainge would rather just keep his man. And I wouldn't have traded to GSW without getting 2029 and 2031 unprotected from them, which it sounds like GSW never offered.
Here we are with Markannen going nowhere, but yet this thread refuses to die.
Die thread, die.
Drafted a euro point guard prospect with a serious acl injury who will be out for the year but might be the best player in the draft.
Let it go
The “extra” pick was Langford the next year. I’ll give him credit for snookering Philly, but he would have drafted Tatum anyway. You, may also be misinterpreting my use of the word top with #1. Tatum was a top pick, even if he was #3. Brown was a top pick,even at #3. Where he didn’t usually hit was later, with the Langford and Yabuseles.
Where he was picked doesn’t qualify as bold.
Tatum and Brown were not no brainer picks for Boston, that is revisionist historyBrown was mocked around 7 or 8 in most draft boards and Josh Jackson/Kris Dunn were ahead of Tatum in a lot of mock drafts. To act like they were obvious all-star picks at where they were taken is laughable
and its not just the selection of tatum its the willingness to trade out of #1
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