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    1- I never argued their greatness, I acknowledged it. Not the point

    2- MJ or Kobe NEVER behaved that way unless they had to answer a provocation/agression. It's called class and respect, it's part of the education that clearly a huge part of the new generation in the US lacks

    3- Quite surprising that a Spurs fan, who I assume admires the Admiral and TD or the Spurs's way in general, would defend those type of behavior...
    Oh you were being serious I see. MJ and Kobe both belitted far more opponents than Curry and I'm a bit shocked this is even an argument that you're making because it's so.detatched from reality. MJ literally kept Isiah Thomas off the dream team because he was so petty.

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    Be my guest, find me one example of them trash talking after a win vs a team that has no beef nor history with them

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    Oh you were being serious I see. MJ and Kobe both belitted far more opponents than Curry and I'm a bit shocked this is even an argument that you're making because it's so.detatched from reality. MJ literally kept Isiah Thomas off the dream team because he was so petty.
    MJ had a personal pb wit Isiah who btw was the one that started it by asking his allsatr teammates not to pass the ball to MJ during his 1st ASG

    Find me just 1 ex of a trash talk from MJ or Kobe unprovoked... Especially as veterans that Curry or Lebron are

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    Do you think he's a player worth adding to the team, or not really?
    I think he is worth adding to a NBA team but not Spurs.

    Yabusele is a true good player. He isn't just a player who was good for a week during the Olympic tournament. He has been a very good player in Europe for years.

    However, the fit with Spurs is so-so. His pairing with either Sochan or Barnes at the forward spots isn't that great to me. Yabusele would also work better on a playoff team that is looking to add some depth. At 28 years old, he doesn't have the upside or the vet leadership that a rebuilding team like Spurs is looking for.

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    Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
    I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.

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    Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
    I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.
    Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.

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    Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.
    they didnt think so in 2019. its been 5 years

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    they didnt think so in 2019. its been 5 years
    He’s 5 years older, without any further NBA experience or development.

    Not picking up the first option of a #16 overall pick speaks pretty loudly. I can only think of one other comparable situation, Jalen Smith, and another team picked him up and he’s still in the league.

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    Be my guest, find me one example of them trash talking after a win vs a team that has no beef nor history with them
    Why all these qualifiers? Jordan talked his entire career to everyone. So did Kobe. That's the exact way they were built and there are more greats that do this than don't. Also the assumption here is that no one on the French team dared say all game or in previous games which is nonsense. Wemby himself has talked plenty of in games that I've seen so it would not surprise me one bit if he talked trash during that game.

    Making out Curry to be some kind of asshole based on his sleep celebration when French Jesus Killian Mbappe does like that all the time is just laughable. There's one thing that's consistent between sports greats its this kind of behavior.

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    MJ had a personal pb wit Isiah who btw was the one that started it by asking his allsatr teammates not to pass the ball to MJ during his 1st ASG

    Find me just 1 ex of a trash talk from MJ or Kobe unprovoked... Especially as veterans that Curry or Lebron are
    Why are you so sure it was unprovoked? Wemby talks my dude. Other french players talk . Most players talk ! And the idea that MJ or Kobe only responded to others talking is LOL.

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    Not to mention I don't even think Steph was trash talking the French team. He was doing it at the crowd.

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    THE MAN TRASH TALKED HIS OWN TEAM AND INFAMOUSLY PUNCHED STEVE ING KERR!!

    This is the dude you want to hold up as the one who would never?

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    Larry Bird was the biggest, most disrespectful trash talker on the planet next to KG.

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    Alright, thank you for the evaluation, Bruno. I thought you were going to say he might not be worthy of an NBA contract, but glad I saw what you've said (I saw a player that is very good and can play in the NBA for sure), so I guess it's just a matter of fit for him.
    I don't know too much about him (what type of person he is, his character), but for whatever reason, I like him. Seems like a good guy that you want to have on your team.
    He explained in an interview last month what happened.

    To begin, he didn't play much so he gained a bit weight (like Boris, like Seraphin). Despite everything, he persevered and managed to increase the number of training sessions. The coaches saw that he was working, they were happy with him, but they never gave him a chance. His agent asked for explanations, other franchises were interested in a trade, but Boston was against it. They always had an excuse for why he wasn't more in the rotation.

    Then, Kyrie Irving and Al Horford asked the coaches why he wasn't playing because seeing that he “kicked them all out in training” they didn't understand. No response.

    Same thing with Danny Ainge who also liked him according to Gerschon and who advised him to go talk to the coach, Brad Stevens. Typical “American” politically correct response: “I love what you do”, never materializing in playing time.

    After the second year, he was cut just before the season resumed. He could have had offers of non-guaranteed contracts, but he did not insist, disgusted by the experience, and returned to Europe.

    Since his performances in Europe and with the French team, there have often been contacts to find out the conditions of his contract in Madrid, but never any follow-ups. The most serious proposal was with Utah two years ago, just before the big Gobert trade. Danny Ainge, always, wanted him, he was ready to sign, but at the last moment the trade with Rudy was done and there was no longer any question of signing him in Utah.


    https://youtu.be/poJBf5luJxM?si=I1APn3kOQc2GNojq&t=2134

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    Welp, Manu and Oberto still the only Spur players with a Gold Medal.
    David Robinson has 2 gold medals.

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    You're right you know. And now that I recall Jordan sobbed uncontrollably on the lockerroom floor after the 1996 ring
    I remember that too. It was the first championship he won without his dad being there.

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    David Robinson has 2 gold medals.
    Keldon got one too.

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    Welp, Manu and Oberto still the only Spur players with a Gold Medal.
    LOL, we literally have 4 gold medals on the team RIGHT NOW! Keldon, Chris Paul has two, and Harrison Barnes. David Robinson won two. Antonio McDyess won one. Steve Smith won one. Alvin Robertson. And there might be more.

    Sorry man, your Argies aren't THAT special.

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    You can thank me later.

    I present to you, the lamentations of the women!!! (Turn on the sound)


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    Americans are never more satisfied with themselves than when they mistreat those smaller than themselves. The Avengers weren't supposed to beat every team by 40 pts? Almost got beaten by the team from the poorest country in the world, and obviously France. I would like the same video with the big victory of the USA women's Team generously helped in its quest for gold by the referees.^^

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    Boston didn’t think so. He didn’t have his year 3 option picked up after his rookie year, and left after his guaranteed two years.
    Apprently the main reason was that he couldn't shoot the damn ball, they liked everything else about him.

    He's gotten a lot better playing at the highest level in europe in a club with a high level of pressure. Everybody wants to beat the Real Madrid

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    Why all these qualifiers? Jordan talked his entire career to everyone. So did Kobe. That's the exact way they were built and there are more greats that do this than don't. Also the assumption here is that no one on the French team dared say all game or in previous games which is nonsense. Wemby himself has talked plenty of in games that I've seen so it would not surprise me one bit if he talked trash during that game.

    Making out Curry to be some kind of asshole based on his sleep celebration when French Jesus Killian Mbappe does like that all the time is just laughable. There's one thing that's consistent between sports greats its this kind of behavior.
    1- Still waiting on just ONE example of MJ acting like a at the end of a game he won, ESPACIALLY vs a team he's supposed to beat BY A LARGE MARGIN. Just one...

    2- I despises almost everything about Mbappe, his game, his personality... everything! I'm relieved like many PSG fans that he's finally gone. Bad example

    3- Context matters, I'm not against trash talk at all, but it had to be justified. Telling your opp to go to sleep when 99% of other nations would show mutual respect after a game of such intensity, doesn't make any sense and makes you look stupid.

    4- I don't reacall a french player disrespecting the US but maybe I missed it...

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    1- Still waiting on just ONE example of MJ acting like a at the end of a game he won, ESPACIALLY vs a team he's supposed to beat BY A LARGE MARGIN. Just one...

    2- I despises almost everything about Mbappe, his game, his personality... everything! I'm relieved like many PSG fans that he's finally gone. Bad example

    3- Context matters, I'm not against trash talk at all, but it had to be justified. Telling your opp to go to sleep when 99% of other nations would show mutual respect after a game of such intensity, doesn't make any sense and makes you look stupid.

    4- I don't reacall a french player disrespecting the US but maybe I missed it...
    My god you are dragging those goal posts time and time again. First it was they never did it. Then it was they never did it unless someone else did it. Now its they never did it unless someone else did it at the end of the game?

    Are the goalposts not heavy or are you just really strong when it comes to changing your argument?

    As for 3 you are just making things up man. There is no logical consistency and you simply want to be angry at the US team because they had the audacity to beat the team you wanted to win. The point is you have NO IDEA what a French player may or may not have said to the US because you weren't in the game. Wemby is a talker, but when he does it you justify it because you like Wemby. The only thing consistent about your arguments is that they hinge on how you feel about players and not actually what the players are doing.

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    Why are you so sure it was unprovoked? Wemby talks my dude. Other french players talk . Most players talk ! And the idea that MJ or Kobe only responded to others talking is LOL.
    Because multiple ppl from BOTH camps told the root of the story.

    Isiah is from Chicago, despite playing for DET, was still a legend in CHI.

    One day one of his nephew came and asked him a MJ jersey (or was wearing one I'm not sure) and he realised he wasn't THE GUY any more, that MJ took over his own city.

    THAT was the origin, then Isiah shun MJ during his first ASG, then the EST finals, then CHI beat DET and Isiah leaves the floor without shaking CHI's players hands etc

    MJ despite loosing to DET went and shook every players hands. Joe Dumars even talked multiple time on how classy MJ was and that he told him "go get it now" etc

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