Could Chet back it up? I think that’s what it comes down to.
To me it doesn't come down to that. I never understood people that think it's OK to be an asshole if you are good (not saying Wemby is an asshole).
It is like the Curry conversation in the Olympics thread. You being great won't make your excessive celebrations any less obnoxious, tbh. I prefer guys like Duncan, Manu, Messi, etc. Being great is not an excuse to be a bag.
It would be y for 99% of the players, I agree.
It only makes sense when u have the abilities and the expectations (for yourself and from everybody else).
It's also a simple symtom of an extrem frustration loosing a game, we all thought France had very little chances to win but that clearly he and some thought they must have won.
Perfectly put
+Victor has shown since his arrival an above average level of ethic, education and sense of respect towards everyone, opponents included. Like REALLY above average
I don't even think he has THAT much work to do on his jump shot tbh, it's already more than decent in most aspects, more on his shots selection and feet (way higher % when well positioned) and hands (needs to learn to keep them high) positioning.
I can't wait
Because not everyone thinks its being an asshole? I literally see nothing wrong with this or with what Curry did so why would I have to defend it? Just because you think its being an asshole doesn't make that a fact. Believe that if you want, but I don't want sports to become some soul-less devoid of emotion. I like when players are confident in themselves and express themselves.
English is BY VERY FAR the easiest language in the world mate. it' not even close.
Especially grammar (no genders) and syntax wise (english has rare abili y to create new words by association of multiple, or use an adjectifs as verbs etc).
Now if you talk about the accent, I agree
Wait, so when a player can back it up its not y? I definitely dont' think what Wemby said was wrong but you were all up in the other thread saying some nonsense and are in this one contradicting yourself pretty badly.
Just say its OK because you like Wemby and that its not OK for Curry because you don't like him. You don't need to tie yourself in knots like this.
No, not by iself, but combined with with the expectations the rest of the world has, it means he owns it. It's a great sign bc in his position the worst would be getting eaten by those expectations/pression.
It wasn't said in an egotistic way I think, but more in an angry (post defeat) and ambitious way.
And no, I don't just defend him bc he's french or I like him, no need to insult my integrity, you probably miss those posts, but I do criticise him a lot and don't have naturall a "fanboy" culture/at ude (I despises ppl/adults like that).
I do have empthie tho
I have a lot of spanish speaking friends and anytime they need to say a word that starts with a "s" it's hillariousIt all depends on which is your first language. But, in general, there's data that supports that English is one of quickest languages to learn. Global exposure probably plays a huge role in this, but English also has less grammatical conjugations than most languages, specially Latin derived ones (which French is a part of).
The difficult part about English is that letters and sounds don't have a direct correlation, which, for the life of me, I will never understand why that is the case. That's why is more difficult for English speaking folks to get a name pronunciation right when reading it for the first time.
They can't say "Spaghetti" for ex but only "Espaghetti"
(the french's accent is even worst let's be clear ^^)
This whole celebration thing is the result of a TikTok generation (actually started way before through all of Lebron's gestures). There is nothing natural about these celebrations. Everyone feels obligated to find an “iconic” gesture to gain popularity and make some “views”. If they don’t, they just reproduce the gestures they’ve seen done by other stars on TikTok or elsewhere. It's a bit like showing too much celebration on a dunk or flex. In the theater, we call all these gestures lazzi. It’s commedia dell’arte, cinema. Not very respectful, very often, but it's now part of the show. And like all nonsense, the public has every right to find them out of place or repe ive.
Doing nothing, not celebrating, remaining stoic would already be a lazzo in itself. Everyone plays a role. The one who does not express any “inconical” celebration and does not use any jokes will play the role of the sad clown, Pierrot, Buster Keaton, or, worse, be the butt of a joke, the one who is mocked (perhaps a reason why certain clowns on a floor prefer to overplay their celebrations, it is also sometimes a sign of insecurity, Doctor Freud whispers to me).
I would be curious to see if these gestures become the norm in the Euroleague (they are quite rare: no time to celebrate, the Serbian coach will yell at you if you don't get back on defense).
Good points
As Schroeder reminded a few days ago, the biggest diff between NBA and Euro basket is the entertainment aspect.
I don't see those behaviour happening in europe unless that changes
That's cool. I'm not one to dispute as I'm not on the other side of the fence, so to speak.
" bagery" is in the eye of the beholder. If you don't mind it, good for you, but If many people find certain actions to be " y", it is because there's something there.
It's like Louis says at 4:50:
although it is a scientific fact that lebron is a .
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Lebron got posterized by the dancing bear and got back up like nothing happened lol.
It’s cringe when curry does it, it’s cringe when lebron does it and it’s cringe when wemby does it. But let’s be clear, the way wemby did it is ok because he can back it up and how did he back it up? By losing the game. Tbh neither guys couldn’t back it up he had they won. Like what the ? It’s hypocrisy and that’s it. I would prefer wemby just promise he will improve and exact revenge, but I’m not his dad. I would rather curry just shut the up and win graciously, but I’m not his coach. Some people find it entertaining song that’s all cool. I just can’t understand how some people can find one unacceptable while the other one is not only acceptable but necessary.
And let’s not act like players from the past didn’t do it. Pedo poses after dunks all the time. I’m sure he would’ve done it after clutch shots too but he’s didn’t have any in 20 years. Jordan’s shrug when drexler did absolutely nothing to him, dunk and stare downs on Ewing, Kobe’s non stop celebration in front of other people’s benches when he won over far weaker compe ion after riding shaqs coattails.
Some of it is generational in terms of this predetermined, performative nonsense (right down to pictures), but in general it's American logic/culture for you.
Everything has to be a "show" because apparently the game itself isn't enough which is why there's all these other bells and whistles, both in arena/stadium and broadcast wise.
All the foreigners n dems can't take real manhood...its too toxic for them
Speaking of nuanced languages:
The guys that complain about everything being political, making everything political, as per the usual.
The guys that complain about everything being political, making everything political, as per the usual.
now, those people are the real bags.
In all the conjugations of the world and in all the languages of the world, “these people” is followed by the mode “impudent”, which strongly relativizes the scope of the assertion made.
and i thought derrida, and his brethren of post-structuralists, are hard to understand: then again, those people are often quite enigmatic.
Yes, I distinctly remember that crazy interview where Babe Ruth (calling his shot), Michael Jordan (the shrug), and Ickey Woods (the shuffle) said it because they wanted go viral on TikTok.
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