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    Because multiple ppl from BOTH camps told the root of the story.

    Isiah is from Chicago, despite playing for DET, was still a legend in CHI.

    One day one of his nephew came and asked him a MJ jersey (or was wearing one I'm not sure) and he realised he wasn't THE GUY any more, that MJ took over his own city.

    THAT was the origin, then Isiah shun MJ during his first ASG, then the EST finals, then CHI beat DET and Isiah leaves the floor without shaking CHI's players hands etc

    MJ despite loosing to DET went and shook every players hands. Joe Dumars even talked multiple time on how classy MJ was and that he told him "go get it now" etc
    I wasn't talking about MJ's actions being unprovoked, I was talking about Currys. And I'll give you a simple motivation for Curry's actions: The French fans booed Embiid the entire Olympics. It was clear the US didn't like that, so that could easily have provoked Curry's action since it wasnt' at the team but the fans. We'll never know, but the point is acting like it's a fact that his actions were unprovoked is obviously wrong. You don't know. You weren't on that court.

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    Not one of those example are related to our convo or comparable

    A man to man trash talk on the floor is very diff than taunting from the side lines or doing a whole spectacle and dance after scoring a bucket

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    I wasn't talking about MJ's actions being unprovoked, I was talking about Currys. And I'll give you a simple motivation for Curry's actions: The French fans booed Embiid the entire Olympics. It was clear the US didn't like that, so that could easily have provoked Curry's action since it wasnt' at the team but the fans. We'll never know, but the point is acting like it's a fact that his actions were unprovoked is obviously wrong. You don't know. You weren't on that court.
    Nah, that's BS, US players don't even seem to like Emiid

    Curry like Lebron or KD have fans all over the place and the US team was well received

    The truth imo is that they just acted the same way they do all season but forgot Internationall BB and club's are very different.

    I give them that tbh, I don't think their intentions were malicious, they just don't know better/lack education

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    Not one of those example are related to our convo or comparable

    A man to man trash talk on the floor is very diff than taunting from the side lines or doing a whole spectacle and dance after scoring a bucket
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TKEofio7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GT8q3BCZY

    Just stop man. Just take the L. Its fine if you don't know, but this is just nonsense at this point.

    Dude

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0TKEofio7w

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03GT8q3BCZY

    Just stop man. Just take the L. Its fine if you don't know, but this is just nonsense at this point.

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    I you're genuinely missing the point i'm making, I know MJ was no angel, I'm talking about antics that just didn't exist in his era, there are no simmilar example.

    MJ went and shook guys he despises's hands after loosing when Lebron went straight to the lockeroom. See the difference?

    MJ kept it man to man when Curry dances on the floor and taunts even when UNPROVOKED. See the difference?

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    I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

    When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

    Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

    See the difference?

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    You can thank me later.

    I present to you, the lamentations of the women!!! (Turn on the sound)

    Good for ur patriotic ego if it makes u happy, but you're missing a lot of context here.

    French commentators overplay the drama ALL THE TIME one way or another.

    I usually avoid french sport streams specifically bc they often make the game unwatchable (same in football)

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    Apprently the main reason was that he couldn't shoot the damn ball, they liked everything else about him.

    He's gotten a lot better playing at the highest level in europe in a club with a high level of pressure. Everybody wants to beat the Real Madrid
    Better shooting, small volume, shorter distance. Still not sure he would translate to the NBA game as anything more Han a roster player.

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    Keldon got one too.
    That's right, I forgot about him.

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    I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

    When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

    Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

    See the difference?
    bro let it go...

    I personally don't like the shoulder shaking, the balls showing, the tea cups and all dat but it is part of the show in particular in the US..

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    Olympics are over, pea canceled

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    I just thought of another MASSIVE difference between MJ and Lebron...

    When asked who's the GOAT MJ always asnwered that comparing eras is stupid, that they didn't play against one another etc

    Lebron on the other hand, has a "choosen one" tatoo, has a team dedicated to his promotion, calls himself the King and the GOAT...

    See the difference?
    true, but let's not sell MJ short; he has a massive ego as well. it comes with the territory i guess. the difference is that MJ comes off as less insecure about it than Lebron, who seems to be obsessed with proving that he's worthy of being in the GOAT discussion, so he reminds us whenever he gets the chance. jordan seems more secure about it, in that regard.

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    Man the coaches in the olympics must've been AWFUL if this dude won

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    Olympics are over, pea canceled
    Thanks for the reminder

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    bro let it go...

    I personally don't like the shoulder shaking, the balls showing, the tea cups and all dat but it is part of the show in particular in the US..


    Honestly I don't care, just got lots of time to wait this morning, I got hooked

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    Man the coaches in the olympics must've been AWFUL if this dude won
    Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.

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    Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.
    The biggest thing he did was sat Rudy Goberts ass down on the bench

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    The biggest thing he did was sat Rudy Goberts ass down on the bench
    And that was a bold move considering Rudy's NBA credentials.

    I read how the team maneuvering is very political and whatnot on it's moves so sitting Rudy seems pretty brave for the betterment of their success.

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    Wow, I somehow missed this. Not going to make the French fans happy as it probably means his job is locked down. Gotta say, though, he did turn the team around. After that terrible loss against Germany, he made some adjustments and they came out a completely different team playing way harder, more emotional, tougher.
    Nah I'm RELIEVED since yesterday, he announced that it's the end for him.

    At a journalist's question about working in the NBA, he answered "I'd love to but nobody offered me anything..."

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    And that was a bold move considering Rudy's NBA credentials.

    I read how the team maneuvering is very political and whatnot on it's moves so sitting Rudy seems pretty brave for the betterment of their success.
    That was mostly provoked by the players.

    A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to " off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

    This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone

    Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

    Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

    Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do

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    Good for ur patriotic ego if it makes u happy, but you're missing a lot of context here.

    French commentators overplay the drama ALL THE TIME one way or another.

    I usually avoid french sport streams specifically bc they often make the game unwatchable (same in football)
    It is nothing about patriotism.

    It is a reference about what is best in life and it went over your head.

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    That was mostly provoked by the players.

    A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to " off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

    This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone

    Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

    Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

    Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do
    Wow, I didn't know the coach is stepping down. I thought some of the French fans said he had a job for life.

    As for the player, I wonder who it was. Who is the president of the French basketball federation? What job does Boris Diaw hold? Doesn't he have one of those positions?

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    Wow, I didn't know the coach is stepping down. I thought some of the French fans said he had a job for life.

    As for the player, I wonder who it was. Who is the president of the French basketball federation? What job does Boris Diaw hold? Doesn't he have one of those positions?
    He had, but fortunately, we have finally reached the end of the cycle and despite the relative success of this last compe ion.

    If we consider that coaching is about making adjustments when they are necessary, we can estimate that his award for best coach in the compe ion is deserved.

    The press revealed some elements (those mentioned by Pauleta) of why this turnaround caused these improbable adjustments, but we will probably never know the real reasons which pushed Collet not only to change his rotations, but also to modify his management. The difference in behavior was not only on the floor, where the defensive involvement was much better and where players raised their level in attack. We also saw behaviors change on the bench.

    It remains to be seen how and why Rudy got injured. This is not a trivial injury. A cut finger isn't the kind of injury you get in training. My paranoid side tells me that there would not only have been bad words exchanged with the president, but potentially between the players. Rudy is impulsive, we see it clearly in his games; during the compe ion he even held an opponent's ankle while he was on the ground and should have been expelled. So a cut on the finger, we can imagine that it is the result of this impulsiveness and an argument between players and management. Paradoxically, perhaps this would have allowed them to put things into perspective and calm down by forcing them to make compromises. For Collet, this would have convinced him to let go of his ineffective defensive policy and his sterile offensive.

    Boris is the general manager. It seems that it was he who had the idea to bring in Kenny Atkinson. And precisely, we saw Kenny Atkinson much more active on the bench after the defeat against Germany.

    (Arguing in a group, making a revolution, insulting the president, it's so French. We can at least recognize that in this strange and ultimately happy event.)

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    That was mostly provoked by the players.

    A few of them are at the end of their career and dgaf, one of them (the journalist didn't say who) even told the president of the french basketball federation to " off" basically, when this one came to tell the team that their loss vs Germany (group stage) was "shameful".

    This player (a leader) told him that "he was a shamefull president" and left the room. The totality of the team then followed him and left the coaches and president alone

    Everybody's guess is that the player was Fournier, who also had the balls in interview after that loss to defy the coach saying "we need to have a reliable offense, not only base it all on defense etc"

    Anyone with a set of eyes could see Gobert was wasting too many offensive plays and became a weak link that opp exploited.

    Collet just did what everybody was begging him to do
    Wow. That's some drama for your mama.

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    FNT has always been the theatre of a lot of drama tbh... between the NBA players and Euro players, with the coach, the president... and even the fact that they had to play in Lille for the Olympics. At one point things were a bit more calm with Tony who basically was running the show and established himself as the alpha, that did not happen yet with Victor but he will have to. It is a next step for Victor and for the Spurs too, he needs to make it clear that it is his team and people needs to play for him and not around

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